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Our pamphlet was published in 1976 and we weren't claiming originality. A lot was coming out from McKeown at the time. The graph was originally used in a health policy document, 'Prevention and health, everybody's business' which used a logarithmic scale to present one interpretation. We used a linear scale to challenge this and the document's presentation of an individualised view of preventive health. Alison From: James Hargreaves [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: 19 October 2012 11:05 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: TB and vaccines I think the original work you refer to is the well-known McKeown hypothesis There is quite a wide literature debating the conclusions Mckeown drew about trends in mortality, including particularly TB mortality. Heres one recent attempt to draw a line under these debates, with relevant refs. (I think tis is accessible free) http://ije.oxfordjournals.org/content/34/3/529.long A recent symposium covered more contemporary debates about the role of social protectin mechanisms to improve TB control in many countries and has some interesting presentations on this subject http://tbsymposium.lshtm.ac.uk/ James Dr. James Hargreaves ([log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>) Senior Lecturer Room 409, Department of Infectious Disease Epidemiology London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine Keppel Street, London WC1E 7HT Tel : +44 20 7927 2955 skype: jameshargreaves7638 >>> Kat Nower <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> 19/10/2012 09:35 >>> Just as a little add on, you might be interested in a recent paper from the Race Equality Foundation on this subject- it argues that a decline in living standards is the main cause of the rise in TB cases in London: Tackling the prevalence of Tuberculosis amongst poorly housed minority ethnic communities in London http://better-housing.org.uk/briefings/tackling-prevalence-tuberculosis-amon gst-poorly-housed-minority-ethnic-communities-london Kat -----Original Message----- From: email list for Radical Statistics [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Macfarlane, Alison Sent: 19 October 2012 07:36 To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: TB and vaccines It appeared in Radical Statistics Health Group's pamphlet, Whose Priorities? published in 1976. This was reproduced as an article in the International Journal of Health Services. If you would like a photocopy of the pamphlet, please give me a postal address to send it to. 1. Radical Statistics Health Group. Whose priorities? A critique of Priorities for health and personal social services statistics in England. London: Radical Statistics, 1976. Pamphlet. Reprinted as a journal article in: Radical Statistics Health Group. A critique of Priorities for health and personal social services statistics in England. International Journal of Health Services 1978; 8: 367-400. Best wishes, Alison Macfarlane ________________________________________ From: Mark Muldoon [[log in to unmask]] Sent: 19 October 2012 01:07 To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> Subject: TB and vaccines Dear RadStaters, I think I first learned of Rad Stats long before I ever joined, from the caption of a figure used to argue that the decline in TB cases in the UK had more to do with rising living standards and less to do with vaccination than is commonly acknowledged. Do I recall this figure correctly and, if so, could someone direct me to the article in which it appeared? Thanks, Mark Muldoon ****************************************************** Please note that if you press the 'Reply' button your message will go only to the sender of this message. If you want to reply to the whole list, use your mailer's 'Reply-to-All' button to send your message automatically to [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>. 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