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Ah Doesn't ring a bell. But there's so much Turner. I knew a Croat -- in Croatia -- who, seeing the enthusiasm my partner and I had for Turner, could not understand why we were not in the tate every weekend studying him! _Without bombast_ is important. The dog I saw was a little bombastic. And to an observer it was ironic almost seeing the way he curbed his noise temporarily to appease his humans in between taking on the atlantic ocean L ----- Original Message ----- From: "Poetryetc: poetry and poetics" To: Cc: Sent:Mon, 8 Oct 2012 07:44:38 +1100 Subject:Re: The words of dog took me a while to bring to mind, but once I googled, up it came: "In his ''Dawn After the Wreck,'' J. M. W. Turner depicts ''a wraith of a dog,'' the lone survivor after the shipwreck of the modern. Turner's dog barks at immensity - but without bombast." whose words these are I can't say… but the painting by Turner calls for a caption… On 08/10/2012, at 7:37 AM, Bill Wootton wrote: > These dog words spoke to me, Laurence and I'm not even a doggy person. Dogs and salt water waves. > Something definitely going on there. The warning stuff seems to capture it. > > > On Wed, Oct 3rd, 2012 at 11:33 PM, Lawrence Upton wrote: > >> >> >> A fox terrier is barking at the sea. >> >> To dogs, his words might have exact meaning >> >> depending on their breed and dialect. >> >> It is for them that the dog barks; always; >> >> even in his most intimate dealings >> >> with Humans, he vocalises for the large pack >> >> he fantasises -- from our point of view -- >> >> the pack which shall be when the world's made right. >> >> Some canine thought will not translate that well >> >> and seems to us flaccid, like a beach ball >> >> that has been punctured by sharp teeth; or dull, >> >> like something which one hopes will move, but won't. >> >> Nevertheless, I'll try to give the gist. >> >> He sings: Oh big area of drab water, >> >> I mistrust you. Why do you keep moving? >> >> I'm warning you! Be still and let me bite. >> >> Ocean, if that's what you are – I doubt it – >> >> don't be cowardly. Be still. I may attack. >> >> Look at the mess you have made. Pathetic. >> >> Is that the best you can do? >> >> Disorder? >> >> I've seen more chaos in my feeding bowl. >> >> Just because there's a lot of you, you know... >> >> I'm still warning you! I shall break contact. >> >> I shall come back, when I am free, and piss >> >> and I shall for a night and for a day >> >> until you are polluted and ashamed >> >> I will chew you into such little ponds >> >> that you will not be coordinated >> >> and my friends will come and drink all of you >> >> I'm warning you. I don't like your size here >> >> Go away now and come back much smaller. >> >> I'm warning you. I'm warning you. Stop it. >> >> >> >> >>