I think it would be good to have some higher level more organised research going on, perhaps something EH could do. We're adding things with scrappy info that turns up but we have little idea of significance, etc. My addition of new sites tends to be whatever thematic thing happens to turn up, rather than enhancement with major thought behind it. If you know what I mean. :)
Helen Wells
Historic Environment Record Officer
Leicestershire County Council
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From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of MACLEAN, Sarah
Sent: 18 October 2012 14:26
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Subject: Re: Bevin Boys training centres - where are they now?
In the results for the Content and Computing Survey this year, of those HERs who have been doing historic building enhancements 88% were of industrial buildings. So some work is being done on Industrial sites by HERs, but perhaps more the buildings side than the monuments side of things?
Sarah MacLean
Heritage Information Partnerships Supervisor
English Heritage
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From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Helen Wells (Archaeology)
Sent: 18 October 2012 14:22
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Subject: Re: Bevin Boys training centres - where are they now?
We've been trying to put on more industrial sites, coal mines etc, so I totally agree! It's an area that definitely needs more work. :)
Helen Wells
Historic Environment Record Officer
Leicestershire County Council
Planning, Historic & Natural Environment, Leicestershire County Council, County Hall, Glenfield, Leics, LE3 8RA
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From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Ben Wallace
Sent: 18 October 2012 14:12
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Subject: Re: Bevin Boys training centres - where are they now?
Clare,
Unfortunately the Warwickshire one (Haunchwood Tunnel Pit) no longer exists, it is now a small industrial estate. It is interesting to see the locations of where the conscripts (if that is the right term) came from, some a long way from Warwickshire!
I think this information would be useful especially to those looking at the social history of these areas.
Now there is just the matter of working out how to reference this in the very empty Monument record for Haunchwood Tunnel Pit without investigating the whole history of Coal Mining for Warwickshire!
On a related note something we have noted in the Warwickshire HER is that industrial sites, especially coal mining are poorly represented and often as skeleton records rather than holding much substance. I feel an HER enhancement project coming on, now if only I had some funding from somewhere..... :)
Ben
Ben Wallace
(Historic Environment Record Manager)
BA (EU) Hons, MA, MIfA
Warwickshire Historic Environment Record
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On 17 October 2012 17:51, THOMAS, Roger J C <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
Dear Clare,
There was quite a substantial complex of purpose-built buildings for the Bevin Boys to the east of the A19 in the middle of Askern (NGR to come). I am fairly sure that this site has been redeveloped, but I will check for you. This whole subject is facinating and I am amazed to see the number of sites listed, many of which are not strictly close to coalfields; this makes me wonder whether a number of these sites were re-using pre-existing but defunct army camps, Women's Land Army hostels, abandoned US Army hospitals etc. This sort of re-use was common for Irish labourers and PoWs.
Regards,
Roger J C Thomas
Assistant Designation Adviser (West), former English Heritage Military Support Officer
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From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records [mailto:[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>] On Behalf Of Clare Henderson
Sent: 17 October 2012 17:23
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Subject: Bevin Boys training centres - where are they now?
Hello again,
I have a follow-up question about training centres for Bevin Boys! Attached is a helpful document sent to me by Christopher at Norfolk that lists 13 training centres throughout England, Scotland and Wales (link below to the website from which it was sourced). Of the two in Durham, Horden and Morrison Busty, the former has been demolished, but it seems some of the buildings survive at the Morrison site, which I am very pleased to see. This set me wondering about their survival nationally? Has anyone researched these sites in their patch and if so do you have anything left? It's not urgent, just something you might like to ponder (be warned though, I've lost nearly 3 days so far...)
http://www.theforgottenconscript.co.uk/
Thanks,
Clare
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