PS I think the people first language works for people who believe in a medical portrayal of whatever characteristic labels them but they want to highlight that this is only one label of many that makes up their body. But if you do not believe in the medical label of yourself I do not think it makes a difference whether you are called person with a defect or a defective person. You will reject both versions Cheers Gregor Dr Gregor Wolbring Associate Professor, University of Calgary, Faculty of Medicine, Dept. of Community Health Sciences, Specialization Community Rehabilitation and Disability Studies, 3330 Hospital Drive NW, T2N4N1, Calgary, Alberta , Canada TRW 3d31 Email: gwolbrin[at]ucalgary.ca<mailto:[log in to unmask]> Phone 1-403-210-7083 Web: http://www.crds.org/research/faculty/Gregor_Wolbring.shtml From: The Disability-Research Discussion List [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Russell Sent: October-01-12 5:41 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: People first language Then the law, sir, is an ass. I am autistic (rather than "an autistic"). I also have Englishness (or more specifically, Geordieness). Tragically I have suffered from heterosexuality for many years. There is no known cure for this terrible affliction (which is exacerbated by an extreme case of maleness). Fortunately, after many years of loneliness and shame I managed to make contact with others with heterosexuality. Surprisingly, some of these people were diagnosed as having femaleness. We were able to offer each other mutual self-help and support. One of these people with femaleness turned out to be prone to developing motherness. I now have a charming person with sonness (who is autistic and dyspraxic) and a delightful person with daughterness (who is dyslexic). Russell Nothing to do with the aboutness of our usness with the withoutness of us! From: The Disability-Research Discussion List [mailto:[log in to unmask]]<mailto:[mailto:[log in to unmask]]> On Behalf Of Vin Sent: 01 October 2012 20:49 To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: People first language that is the other strand of the Social Model: self-definition. A disabled person has the right to be the only person who defines or describes who they are. However, it is important that public bodies in the UK stick to Social Model language in all public fora because that is what disabled people have fought for for many years and is now a legal duty. It is appropriate in a one-to-one situation for the disabled person to tell a public officer that they want to be referred to as 'an autistic' or whatever is their preference but in public pronouncements, documents etc. Social Model language must be used. Vin Vin West Secretary Arfon Access Group Glyn Dwr Llandwrog Uchaf Caernarfon LL54 7RA 01286 880761 [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> On 1 Oct 2012, at 18:01, Larry Arnold <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote: I don't "have autism" as if it were something I carry around in a suitcase, I am autistic. Yeah I am Autistic, Artistic and Political!! People first languages distances the person from the lable as if it were something dirty they would not want to associate with. Fortunately I am not the only one who believes as he does, that this is a dangerous euphemism and part of the destruction and denial of our worth. Words can be powerful especially when one declares them as part of ones inalienable identity. http://autismmythbusters.com/general-public/autistic-vs-people-with-autism/jim-sinclair-why-i-dislike-person-first-language/ Larry From: The Disability-Research Discussion List [mailto:[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>] On Behalf OfRossiter CJ Mr (PG/R - Psychology) Sent: 01 October 2012 17:04 To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> Subject: People first language Following my own enquiries about 'people first language', I thought some of you may find the following of interest. http://www.todaysthv.com/news/article/228999/2/Addressing-a-person-with-a-disability- LITTLE ROCK, Ark. (KTHV) We all know words can be powerful and sometimes harmful. There's a push around Arkansas to use "People First Language." Although Veronica Tess Myers is accustomed to hearing labels about her son, she makes it known that she's quite proud of him. His name is Alexander. "When we go to public restaurants, you can hear those words or see those negative words transpiring," says Myers. "He is an intelligent young man. He's dealing with his disability. Alexander has Autism. "Not Alexander is Autistic," says Tess Myers. Putting the person first is what "People First Language" is all about. SeRonna Rodgers held a session on this terminology for Arkansas Can Do. "Just refer to people as people with disabilities as opposed to the disabled or the handicapped," says Rodgers. The state legislature has also come on board. A law passed in 2009 <http://www.arkleg.state.ar.us/assembly/2009/R/Acts/Act975.pdf> and bans certain words in future legislation. For example,"mentally retarded" is now "individuals with intellectual disabilities." The words "mental illness" is now "individuals with mental illness." Rodgers is urging people to go a little bit further in everyday conversation. "Let's do away with the words handicap even if you see it on parking signs," says Rodgers. "It's not about political correctness at all. It's about using words with respect." Best, Christopher J. Rossiter PhD Researcher & PsyPAG Representative (BPS Wessex Branch) Department of Psychology & School of Management 25 AC 04 University of Surrey Guildford. GU2 7XH Twitter @dis_psych Academia.edu<http://Academia.edu>: http://surrey.academia.edu/ChristopherRossiter ________________End of message________________ This Disability-Research Discussion list is managed by the Centre for Disability Studies at the University of Leeds (www.leeds.ac.uk/disability-studies<http://www.leeds.ac.uk/disability-studies>). 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