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Could be either - or both? There is a work called LCSH - and I don't think RDA covers subjects yet. Nick Slough Assistant Librarian Bibliographical Services Section City of London Libraries, Archives and Guildhall Art Gallery Guildhall Library Aldermanbury London EC2V 7HH Tel: 020 7332 1093 Email: [log in to unmask] www.cityoflondon.gov.uk/libraries Follow us on Twitter Read our blog -----Original Message----- From: CIG E-Forum [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Nicky Ransom Sent: 24 October 2012 11:04 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [CIG-E-FORUM] Record 2 discussion Is the relationship between the book and LCSH not one of subject, rather than Work? Nicky Ransom Data Quality Manager & Cataloguer University for the Creative Arts Farnham GU9 7DS 01252 892739 [log in to unmask] ________________________________________ From: CIG E-Forum [[log in to unmask]] on behalf of Garner, Helen J (LIS) [[log in to unmask]] Sent: 24 October 2012 11:01 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [CIG-E-FORUM] Record 2 discussion I wasn't convinced I needed to do this, but I did feel that the toolkit at 25.1 was indicating that I should. Whilst it is a bit obvious in this example, I assume that this would often be the case? I was also thinking that it would be the kind of data needed in a FRBR-ized catalogue. Helen -----Original Message----- From: CIG E-Forum [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Helen Williams Sent: 24 October 2012 10:49 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [CIG-E-FORUM] Record 2 discussion Thanks Sandra Would anyone who included a related work/manifestation feel able to say a bit more about it in relation to this record? This issue will definitely come up again as I included this field on some of my records, although not on this one. Had I thought more carefully though, I might have done so! With the convenience of the user uppermost in our minds, I think it's helpful to provide all the links that we can to related sources. Helen -----Original Message----- From: CIG E-Forum [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Sandra Cockburn Sent: 24 October 2012 10:45 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: [CIG-E-FORUM] Record 2 discussion Re Helen's comments below: *some of us have included a second 264 field with a (c) date * some of us (including me!) have included a relationship designator of 'author' - what's the feeling about whether this is necessary on a straightforward record? * A few people have included related works/manifestations I wondered if including a second 264 was perhaps taking things a bit too far, so didn't include it. How important are these relationship designators likely to become further down the road? If their presence is going to be crucial within the context of the semantic web (!), perhaps we need to be consistent and apply throughout. Do you have examples of where folks have included related works/manifestations, just to be sure I'm clear on what this means. Thanks, Sandra Please access the attached hyperlink for an important electronic communications disclaimer: http://lse.ac.uk/emailDisclaimer THIS E-MAIL AND ANY ATTACHED FILES ARE CONFIDENTIAL AND MAY BE LEGALLY PRIVILEGED. If you are not the addressee, any disclosure, reproduction, copying, distribution or other dissemination or use of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error please notify the sender immediately and then delete this e-mail. Opinions, advice or facts included in this message are given without any warranties or intention to enter into a contractual relationship with the City of London unless specifically indicated otherwise by agreement, letter or facsimile signed by a City of London authorised signatory. Any part of this e-mail which is purely personal in nature is not authorised by the City of London. All e-mail through the City of London's gateway is potentially the subject of monitoring. All liability for errors and viruses is excluded. Please note that in so far as the City of London falls within the scope of the Freedom of Information Act 2000 or the Environmental Information Regulations 2004, it may need to disclose this e-mail. Website: http://www.cityoflondon.gov.uk