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Tsk. I wrote this badly .... I meant to say that we are on one hand trying to avoid the hybrid _records_ where at all possible, but on the other we accept that even already our _catalogue_ is hybridised and will remain so for, well, the foreseeable future (and beyond?!) Deborah Lee Senior cataloguer Book Library Courtauld Institute of Art Somerset House Strand London WC2R 0RN Telephone: 020 7848 2905 Email: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> Now on at The Courtauld Gallery: Peter Lely: A Lyrical Vision 11 October 2012 - 13 January 2013 From: CIG E-Forum [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Lee, Deborah Sent: 25 October 2012 15:54 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [CIG-E-FORUM] RDA and workflows Our current plan is to convert records to full RDA after our RDA changeover day (currently scheduled for early April 2013, but could change). Until then, we are taking any full RDA records as is, and incomplete records (i.e. pre-publication, which we get a lot of as we catalogue a lot of exhibition catalogues as a priority) are only being re-catalogued in AACR2 as a last resort (i.e. even after 2 or 3 months we can't find a full record in either AACR2 or RDA). However, once we start training for RDA (in the Spring), we will flip and we will complete partial records in RDA if that is how they have been catalogued. In short, we are trying to avoid hybrid records as much as we can, acknowledging that our catalogue will become increasingly hybridised. I should point out that we are a very small university library, so the scale of things means we can do some things that bigger libraries can't, and vice versa. Our biggest discussions are over the "new" older stock that we get in and any retrospective cataloguing work. This we still need to figure out, as like you say, we can't expect cataloguers to have AACR2 skills forever! Debbie Deborah Lee Senior cataloguer Book Library Courtauld Institute of Art Somerset House Strand London WC2R 0RN Telephone: 020 7848 2905 Email: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> Now on at The Courtauld Gallery: Peter Lely: A Lyrical Vision 11 October 2012 - 13 January 2013 From: CIG E-Forum [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Bernadette Mary O'Reilly Sent: 25 October 2012 15:47 To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: [CIG-E-FORUM] RDA and workflows My greatest concern is about how we are to use downloaded records - AACR2 records, hybrids and RDA records which have adopted options to be much less full - and edit existing AACR2 records once people here have lost their AACR2 skills. We don't have the resources to support multiple standards, nor to do detailed record-by-record assessments and remodellings. Also, quite a lot of our records are added in batches of thousands. I expect that in order to maintain throughput we will have to accept a lot of variation and hybridisation, and quite possibly produce hybridsof our own (!!!!), i.e. editing AACR2 records using RDA instructions. I don't think it will really affect users if we write 'pages' in a record coded as AACR2, but I am more concerned about structural incompatibilities, e.g. treatment of revisions, compilations and collaborations, where there is some risk of producing gappy or incoherent records. Has anyone else got plans for their downloading strategies? And what about the H-word (hybridisation)? Best wishes, Bernadette ******************* Bernadette O'Reilly Catalogue Support Librarian 01865 2-77134 Bodleian Libraries, Osney One Building Osney Mead Oxford OX2 0EW. ******************* From: CIG E-Forum [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Jackie Johnson (Library Services) Sent: 25 October 2012 15:35 To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> Subject: [CIG-E-FORUM] RDA and workflows Just a general question/observation. What are people's views about the adoption of RDA impinging greatly on productivity, or am I being end of dayish negative? We're very concerned here on how it's going to slow us down whilst at the same time we are battling with increasing amounts of material to catalogue. Apologies if this is off topic. 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