Hi Sylvia It may not seem related, but you may find the various threads on preparing, degreasing bone, etc. (whale, horse...) of interest. I've copied (below your email), Julie Bond's email which comments on making combs from whale bone. I also have had conversations with palaeo-tools researchers who comment that marking tools from bone is so much harder than antler. Horn being easier to use is easy to understand but I was surprised that antler is apparently more pliable and effected by soaking than other bone - perhaps because of its growth/structure which may lead to drying out/being less fatty than limb bones... At any rate, the suggestion here seems to be that fresh bone isn't a good material - that the bones need to be 'cured' - what essentially seems to be degreased/dried. Given my experience with curing fresh horse bone, which I assume will be similar to cattle, the scapula is a lot less greasy than the other limb bones, but still has grease. Biotex and simmering water is probably best to degrease, than dry in a slow oven, then maybe simmer in plain water... If you only dry in an oven be prepared for a thick, sticky, almost tar-like, orange grease (think glues) and a not particularly pleasant smell. A web search will also yield sites for people who make reproductions/ bone objects who might be willing to offer some advice. best Pam Pamela J Cross PhD researcher, Bioarchaeology Horses of Men & Gods project Archaeological Sciences, University of Bradford, BD7 1DP UK p.j.cross (at) student.bradford.ac.uk / pajx (at) aol.com http://www.barc.brad.ac.uk/resstud_Cross.php _http://bradford.academia.edu/PamCross_ (http://bradford.academia.edu/PamCross) In a message dated 10/09/2012 10:33:53 GMT Daylight Time, [log in to unmask] writes: Hello everyone. A friend is about to embark on a bit of experimental archaeology - to make a comb from a cattle scapula (fresh). They asked what method of preparation would be best. I am familiar with what would make a good reference specimen, but wonder if different treatments at an early stage will make it easier to work? Any ideas/suggestions? Many Thanks Sylvia Dr Sylvia Warman | Science Advisor, London Direct Line: 0207 973 3733 Mobile Phone: 07881805347 English Heritage | 1 Waterhouse Square 138-42 Holborn | London EC1N 2ST _www.english-heritage.org.uk_ (http://www.english-heritage.org.uk/) This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may contain personal views which are not the views of English Heritage unless specifically stated. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system and notify the sender immediately. Do not use, copy or disclose the information in any way nor act in reliance on it. Any information sent to English Heritage may become publicly available. Portico: your gateway to information on sites in the National Heritage Collection; have a look and tell us what you think. _http://www.english-heritage.org.uk/professional/archives-and-collections/po rtico/_ (http://www.english-heritage.org.uk/professional/archives-and-collections/portico/) Subject: Re: [ZOOARCH] preparing whale bones Date: 06/09/2012 12:35:28 GMT Daylight Time From: [log in to unmask] (mailto:[log in to unmask]) As an aside to this interesting discussion, some years ago I talked to whalebone carvers in Newfoundland and Labrador. They said that the whalebone they used had to have been weathering for 30-50 years before it was workable, as before this point the grease made it unusable for their purposes. This meant that the bone used had to be curated in some way; traditionally it had been sourced by visiting old Inuit sites. One carver said he had tried using whalebone which had been dredged up from the sea near an old whaling station, and thus pretty old, but the cold water had delayed decomposition and the bone was still too greasy and smelly to be used. At our own excavations at Old Scatness in Shetland, one of the Living History interpreters who was also a skilled bone carver tried to make a replica weaving comb from whalebone given to him by a Shetlander, which had been taken from a beach as clean bone some years previously. The remaining grease made the bone extremely difficult to work and it certainly could not have been used as a weaving comb without further preparation. It suggests that bone carvers in the past must have either curated whalebone for a considerable time before use, or had some other method of preparing the bone. Burial in a compost or manure heap sounds like a definite possibility. Julie