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Somewhere in the mists of time a survey supposedly asked whether the
respondents had ever met a scientist. I,ve never been able to trace it, so
it may be apochryphal, but it would I think be an interesting question,
adding possibly in what circumstances.

Frank

On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 11:27 AM, Hilary Sutcliffe
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> I think it would be useful to categorise what 'being involved in science'
> looks like and show that its not all about going to public dialogues, so
> they realise they are more involved than they think.   So eg filling in a
> survey about nutrition in a supermarket, or in about obesity in a women's
> mag, or a survey in the street from a campaign group about their views on
> climate change, or an Internet survey on badger culls by a gov dept, or by
> your utility company about energy use or a national newspaper poll on gm,
> or helping a doctor compile info on an ailment, participating in a dialogue
> about a new power plant etc etc is all involvement with science in some
> way, in that the information is used to inform views of scientists, social
> scientists, ngos or companies on what people think about aspects of science
> and sometimes changing the way they do things in response. You might
> disagree!
>
>  In terms of learning about science it's not all about trying to get your
> head round the LHC or watching to Brian Cox, or going to a science centre.
>  Reading more about sports nutrition in a sunday supplement or signing up
> for a green energy assessment or reading about the use of technology in
> cosmetics in a women's mag, or weather patterns inThe Sun, or medical
> advances in the daily mail (?!) or Andy Murrays fitness regime and why it
> works is all learning about science in some way. You may disagree about tat
> too!
>
> Perhaps list a huge list of ways they can be involved or learn more and
> ask them to tick which they have done and which they might do if asked.
>
> Also might be worth asking which scientists they know, see if anyone knows
> anyone other than Brian cox! It might be interesting to correlate the ups
> and downs of celeb science with trust in science, though perhaps you have
> done that already. Not got time to read again.
>
> Best regards
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> Hilary
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> On 28 Sep 2012, at 10:28 PM, Michael Kenward <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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> Looking at that study, it does make mention of Twitterdom, but I’d have
> thought that any follow up should go further into that domain. ****
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> For example Figure 8’s “Other internet websites (not science blogs)” is a
> bit of a catch all. And the report has just two mentions each for Twitter
> and Facebook. That does not seem to be in line with their importance.****
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> The declining readership of newspapers and other print media suggests that
> the 33% number is a bit adrift from what really happens. It probably needs
> a matching question, or data drawn from other sources, on what people use
> to get any information, not just science. Many people now proudly boast
> about never reading, let alone buying, a newspaper.****
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> The 2011 survey does go into some of this, but the picture it paints does
> not ring true. Perhaps it needs to move further in that direction.****
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> In any case, there could be some mileage in asking internet folks some of
> the same questions posed about how much people trust print media.****
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> *From:* psci-com: on public engagement with science [
> mailto:[log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>] *On Behalf Of *Roland
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> *Sent:* 2012-September-28 15:45
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> Thanks Bob. There is some stuff on trust in scientists on p41/42 of the
> 2011 survey
> http://www.ipsos-mori.com/Assets/Docs/Polls/sri-pas-2011-main-report.pdfincluding a passing reference to climate change. Do suggest specification
> for any more specific focus offline.****
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> Another possible dimension, on which list members might like to comment,
> is the value of a ‘Scientists Attitudes to Science’ survey. Would we expect
> scientists’ views in many areas to be significantly different from the
> general public, and would we ask many of the same questions…? (and some
> different?).****
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> *From:* psci-com: on public engagement with science
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] *On Behalf Of *Robert Ward
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> I would have responded off-list, but this may be of interest to list
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> It would be good if the next public attitudes survey could explore in more
> depth issues around public trust in scientists, not just as a single group
> but also in terms of the different subject areas.****
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> A new report that has just been published this afternoon shows that only
> 38% of the public trust climate scientists to tell the truth about global
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> This contrasts with the annual Ipsos-MORI survey of trust in professions
> which regularly finds that scientists are among the most trusted to
> generally tell the truth, with 71% of the public agreeing in the most
> recent poll: http://www.ipsos-mori.com/Assets/Docs/Polls/Veracity2011.pdf*
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