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yes, Jon, you're right.

i suppose i should have put "Decline" in quotes.

mea grosso culpa.

c

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Received: Thu, 02 Aug 2012 10:26:01 AM EDT
From: Jon Cannon <[log in to unmask]>
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Subject: Re: [M-R] Origin of church towers/minarets

> medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture
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> 'that S. Lorenzo vault is a pretty impressive feat, for an Empire in the
very
> Throes of "Decline," i'm thinking'
> 
> I'm not sure anyone at the time would have recognised that description.
'Rome' had lost its grip on the north and west of Europe, but its newish
capitals at Milan and Constantinople where major centres of power,
architecturally reshaping themselves (and architecturally innovating as they
did so) around the new official faith. 
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> > Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2012 10:08:26 -0400
> > From: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: [M-R] Origin of church towers/minarets
> > To: [log in to unmask]
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> > medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture
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> > From: John Dillon <[log in to unmask]>
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> > > On 08/01/12, Christopher Crockett wrote:
> > 
> > >> From: "Kleinbauer, W. Eugene" <[log in to unmask]>
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> > >>> The 4th century church of S. Lorenzo in Milan had four corner towers
> > integrated into the fabric of the structure; one of the 4 towers still
> > preserves its original masonry for over 22 meters: see W. Eugene
Kleinbauer,
> > "Aedita in turribus: The Superstructure of the Early Christian Church of
San
> > Lorenzo in Milan," GESTA, vol. 15, no. ½ (1976), pp. 1-9.
> > 
> > >> http://www.jstor.org/page/info/about/policies/terms.jsp
> > >> (i can send a copy to anyone who needs one and is not a subscriber)
> > 
> > >> http://wiki-images.enotes.com/3/33/Milano_Lorenzomaggiore.01.JPG
> > 
> > > That view gives a good impression of the placement of the four towers.
The
> > one with the original masonry for over 22 meters [of its height] is, I
> > believe, the one seen at right here (the northeast tower):
> > 
> > >
> >
http://www.arte.it/foto/orig/57/2469-1568_-_Milano_-_Absidi_di_san_Lorenzo_-_Foto_Giovanni_Dall_27Orto_-_18-May-2007.jpg
> > > http://tinyurl.com/d3lzmoc
> > 
> > 
> > thanks, John.
> > 
> > i looked (without success) for something which was similar to the two
drawings
> > of the "reconstructed" building found in Professor Kleinbauer's article
which
> > clearly demonstrated how those towers functioned as "anchors" for the
*huge*
> > groin vault (over a square 24m on a side), which is the thrust of his
> > reconstruction of that part of the original building.
> > 
> > for comparative purposes, we may note that the crossing of Amiens
cathedral
> > (built nearly a thousand years later, and covered with much more efficient
Rib
> > Vaulting technology)
> > 
> > http://instructional1.calstatela.edu/bevans/Art101/Art101B-9-Gothic
> > /WebPage-ImageF.00038.jpeg
> > 
> > is a "mere" 15 meters (or so) on a side.
> > 
> > that S. Lorenzo vault is a pretty impressive feat, for an Empire in the
very
> > Throes of "Decline," i'm thinking. 
> > 
> > maybe the builders there just didn't get the Memo.
> > 
> > c
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