> Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 00:05:04 +0100
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> Subject: BRITISH-IRISH-POETS Digest - 20 Aug 2012 to 21 Aug 2012 (#2012-203)
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> There is 1 message totaling 629 lines in this issue.
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> Topics of the day:
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> 1. Need of information
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> Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 11:39:33 -0400
> From: John Latta <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Need of information
>
> Peter,
>
> The Jarnot anthology is stocked with its own "creative writing
> graduates"--mostly coming out of the programs at Buffalo and Brown. Studied
> in a different sort of way. I think the anthology attempts to define a
> generation (whereas *American Hybrid* looks to define a period, its style).
> My two cents.
>
> Best,
> John
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 3:19 PM, Peter Riley <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> > The BP Information service maintains what can only be called excellence.
> > Thanks to all of you who helped.
> >
> > This contents list broadly confirms to me that Lisa Jarnot had the same
> > kind of purpose in mind (but hadn't thought of the word "hybrid") but
> > mostly with a different collection of poets, many of them more ludic, less
> > studied. The St Marks / SF narrowness gives way to creative writing
> > graduates.
> >
> > Pr
> >
> >
> >
> > On 18 Aug 2012, at 15:39, Mark Weiss wrote:
> >
> > I know and like a lot of these people and also some of their poetry. But
> > it does seem very limited. They would all have been in their thirties when
> > the book was published, and all or all but one or two are parts of the
> > scene in the San Francisco Bay area or at Saint Marks Church in New York.
> > An anthology of a cohort perhaps more than of a moment.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Mark
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Randolph Healy **
> > Sent: Aug 18, 2012 10:12 AM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: Need of information
> >
> > ************
> > Hi Peter,
> >
> > here's a list of contents as given by the Amazon page:
> > http://www.amazon.com/An-Anthology-New-American-Poets/dp/1883689627
> >
> > Alleged Original *by Beth Anderson*
> > Arrangements *by Beth Anderson*
> > Evidence *by Beth Anderson*
> > Float And Land *by Beth Anderson*
> > Occasional Movement *by Beth Anderson*
> > Catullus Couch *by Lee Ann Brown*
> > The Current Scene *by Lee Ann Brown*
> > The Current Scene Continued Which I Love To See *by Lee Ann Brown*
> > Menage A Deux *by Lee Ann Brown*
> > My Epithalamion *by Lee Ann Brown*
> > Open Sez Me (t&g) *by Lee Ann Brown*
> > Procrastination Sonnet *by Lee Ann Brown*
> > Boy: Hole *by Mary Burger*
> > My Recent Disgust With The Act Of Thinking: 1. *by Mary Burger*
> > My Recent Disgust With The Act Of Thinking: 47 *by Mary Burger*
> > My Recent Disgust With The Act Of Thinking: 48 *by Mary Burger*
> > My Recent Disgust With The Act Of Thinking: 55 *by Mary Burger*
> > My Recent Disgust With The Act Of Thinking: 58 *by Mary Burger*
> > My Recent Disgust With The Act Of Thinking: 59 *by Mary Burger*
> > My Recent Disgust With The Act Of Thinking: 8. Gay & Lesbian Intellect *by
> > Mary Burger*
> > Thin Straw That I Suck Life Through: Episode 4 *by Mary Burger*
> > Thin Straw That I Suck Life Through: Episode 5 *by Mary Burger*
> > Diorama *by Brenda Coultas*
> > Eat *by Brenda Coultas*
> > An Installation Piece *by Brenda Coultas*
> > My Life And My Death *by Brenda Coultas*
> > The Three Men *by Brenda Coultas*
> > By The Ruins *by Jordan Davis*
> > Dying To *by Jordan Davis*
> > A Little Gold Book *by Jordan Davis*
> > The Loan *by Jordan Davis*
> > A Baptist Beat *by Thomas Sayers Ellis*
> > Parliament/funkadelic, Houston Summit (1976) *by Thomas Sayers Ellis*
> > A Psychoalphadiscobetabioaquadoloop *by Thomas Sayers Ellis*
> > Sir Nose D'voidoffunk *by Thomas Sayers Ellis*
> > Slow Fade To Black *by Thomas Sayers Ellis*
> > Spellbound *by Thomas Sayers Ellis*
> > Zapruder *by Thomas Sayers Ellis*
> > Ah But Who Emptied The Sand From Your Shoes *by Benjamin Friedlander*
> > Christ *by Benjamin Friedlander*
> > Insomnia *by Benjamin Friedlander*
> > Little Wing *by Benjamin Friedlander*
> > Nature (apocologos) *by Benjamin Friedlander*
> > The Soul Is This Liberal Falling Away *by Benjamin Friedlander*
> > The Bridge *by Drew Gardner*
> > Cell Walk *by Drew Gardner*
> > Heading South *by Drew Gardner*
> > Partials *by Drew Gardner*
> > Passive Fire *by Drew Gardner*
> > The Source Log *by Drew Gardner*
> > To Append The Active Sheets Of You *by Drew Gardner*
> > At Earth *by Peter Gizzi*
> > Deus Ex Mmachina *by Peter Gizzi*
> > Ding Repair *by Peter Gizzi*
> > Life Continues *by Peter Gizzi*
> > News At Eleven *by Peter Gizzi*
> > Poem For John Wieners *by Peter Gizzi*
> > A Textbook Of Chivalry *by Peter Gizzi*
> > Arlem *by Renee Gladman*
> > Proprioceptive Commands *by Judy Goldman*
> > Beatrice Has Left The Building *by Yuri (riq) Hospodar*
> > The Clarified Moose *by Yuri (riq) Hospodar*
> > Dwelling On/in *by Yuri (riq) Hospodar*
> > Egyptian Foreplay *by Yuri (riq) Hospodar*
> > Failed Ode To The Dog *by Yuri (riq) Hospodar*
> > Once Upon A Time *by Yuri (riq) Hospodar*
> > Spiritual *by Yuri (riq) Hospodar*
> > Sea Lyrics, Sels. *by Lisa Jarnot*
> > Inside-of-the-body Test *by Garrett Kalleberg*
> > Limbic Odes: 1. Mutation *by Garrett Kalleberg*
> > Limbic Odes: 9. An Undisturbed Song Of Pure Content *by Garrett Kalleberg*
> > The New Gate *by Garrett Kalleberg*
> > Chloroforms *by Candace Kaucher*
> > Ex Post Facto God *by Candace Kaucher*
> > Molecular Viscosity *by Candace Kaucher*
> > Ode Through Gravity To Space *by Candace Kaucher*
> > Perceptual Distance *by Candace Kaucher*
> > Swallowed Opinions But Good Ones *by Candace Kaucher*
> > There Is Only So Much Space In Time -- Or -- Oh Boy! Transference *by
> > Candace Kaucher*
> > Virginibus Puerisque *by Candace Kaucher*
> > Altar (besantius) *by Bill Luoma*
> > Egg (simias) *by Bill Luoma*
> > Hoi Men Hippeon Straton (sappho) *by Bill Luoma*
> > Phainetai Moi (sappho) *by Bill Luoma*
> > Swing *by Bill Luoma*
> > Vanilla *by Bill Luoma*
> > Wings Of Love (simias) *by Bill Luoma*
> > Eon *by Kimberly Lyons*
> > Millefleur *by Kimberly Lyons*
> > Chivalry *by Jeffrey Mcdaniel*
> > D *by Jeffrey Mcdaniel*
> > Exile *by Jeffrey Mcdaniel*
> > First Person Omniscient *by Jeffrey Mcdaniel*
> > The Multiple Floor *by Jeffrey Mcdaniel*
> > The Offer *by Jeffrey Mcdaniel*
> > Opposites Attack *by Jeffrey Mcdaniel*
> > The Quiet World *by Jeffrey Mcdaniel*
> > Invigorated Sight *by Mark Mcmorris*
> > More Than Once In Caves *by Mark Mcmorris*
> > Moth-wings: Panel Eight: Interlude *by Mark Mcmorris*
> > Moth-wings: Panel One; Advent Of The Hill *by Mark Mcmorris*
> > Moth-wings: Panel Seven: Notes For A Book About Danielle *by Mark Mcmorris
> > *
> > After First Figure *by Jennifer Moxley*
> > Cast Of Shadows *by Jennifer Moxley*
> > Enlightenment Evidence (poems For Rosa Luxemburg) *by Jennifer Moxley*
> > Fin De Siecle Go-betweens *by Jennifer Moxley*
> > Home World *by Jennifer Moxley*
> > Ode On The End *by Jennifer Moxley*
> > Ode To Protest *by Jennifer Moxley*
> > The Right To Remain Silent *by Jennifer Moxley*
> > Another And Another *by Claire Needell*
> > Another One *by Claire Needell*
> > Another, Being *by Claire Needell*
> > But For Now *by Claire Needell*
> > Feathers *by Claire Needell*
> > Frame By Frame *by Claire Needell*
> > In These Particulars *by Claire Needell*
> > Patterns Of Identification *by Claire Needell*
> > Space Remains *by Claire Needell*
> > To Witness To Hunt *by Claire Needell*
> > View *by Claire Needell*
> > Answer *by Nguyen Hoa*
> > Bare *by Nguyen Hoa*
> > Here *by Nguyen Hoa*
> > Play *by Nguyen Hoa*
> > Shred *by Nguyen Hoa*
> > Surrogate Houses *by Nguyen Hoa*
> > Walk *by Nguyen Hoa*
> > Grzech Pierworodny *by Mark Andrew Nowak*
> > The House Or Hand That Forces An American Into You *by Mark Andrew Nowak*
> > How Shall I Praise You *by Mark Andrew Nowak*
> > In The Northern Range In The Mountains, Neighborhood It Is Called *by
> > Mark Andrew Nowak*
> > Off-shore Even If There Was A Shore, Some Distance From It *by Mark
> > Andrew Nowak*
> > Stworzenie *by Mark Andrew Nowak*
> > The Sun Rises Each Morning Simply Because I Am Separated From The Sun *by
> > Mark Andrew Nowak*
> > We Have By Now Observed That The Practice Of Agriculture *by Mark Andrew
> > Nowak*
> > Zboze *by Mark Andrew Nowak*
> > Zwaistowanie *by Mark Andrew Nowak*
> > Bridge Segment: 1 *by Heather Ramsdell*
> > Bridge Segment: 2 *by Heather Ramsdell*
> > Bridge Segment: 3 *by Heather Ramsdell*
> > Bridge Segment: 4 *by Heather Ramsdell*
> > Bridge Segment: 5 *by Heather Ramsdell*
> > Bridge Segment: 6 *by Heather Ramsdell*
> > Bridge Segment: 7 *by Heather Ramsdell*
> > Bridge Segment: 8 *by Heather Ramsdell*
> > Bridge Segment: 9 *by Heather Ramsdell*
> > Bridge Segment: 9a *by Heather Ramsdell*
> > Bright Receding *by Heather Ramsdell*
> > Where Things Of A Kind *by Heather Ramsdell*
> > The Humiliation Of The Valley: 2 *by Pam Rehm*
> > The Humiliation Of The Valley: 3 *by Pam Rehm*
> > The Humiliation Of The Valley: 4 *by Pam Rehm*
> > The Humiliation Of The Valley; 1 *by Pam Rehm*
> > In Another Place *by Pam Rehm*
> > A Man Sets Sail With The Fair Wind Of Hope *by Pam Rehm*
> > November Testament *by Pam Rehm*
> > A Trivial Pursuit: 1 *by Pam Rehm*
> > A Trivial Pursuit: 2 *by Pam Rehm*
> > A Trivial Pursuit: 3 *by Pam Rehm*
> > A Trivial Pursuit: 4 *by Pam Rehm*
> > Along The Rails *by Elio Schneeman*
> > Certain Avenues *by Elio Schneeman*
> > In The Valley *by Elio Schneeman*
> > July *by Elio Schneeman*
> > Drive Me *by Susan M. Schultz*
> > The Lost Country: 1 *by Susan M. Schultz*
> > The Lost Country: 2 *by Susan M. Schultz*
> > The Lost Country: 3 *by Susan M. Schultz*
> > The Lost Country: 4 *by Susan M. Schultz*
> > The Lost Country: 5 *by Susan M. Schultz*
> > The Lost Country: 6 *by Susan M. Schultz*
> > The Lost Country: 7 *by Susan M. Schultz*
> > The Lost Country: 8 *by Susan M. Schultz*
> > The Lost Country: 9 *by Susan M. Schultz*
> > Mothers And Dinosaurs, Inc. *by Susan M. Schultz*
> > The Philosopher's Child *by Susan M. Schultz*
> > Pages From An Imaginary Escape *by Leonard Schwartz*
> > The Brambles Of Cavalry (quamash) *by Eleni Sikelianos*
> > The Decameron *by Eleni Sikelianos*
> > In A Pre-raphaelite Light *by Eleni Sikelianos*
> > J(oy)'s The Aim (essay) *by Eleni Sikelianos*
> > Poem *by Eleni Sikelianos*
> > Thus, Speak The Chromograph *by Eleni Sikelianos*
> > Unbridled, Sels. *by Eleni Sikelianos*
> > (illegible) Lake *by Rod Smith*
> > Absolute Variable Switching Structure *by Rod Smith*
> > In Memory Of My Theories: 92 (cinder-sifter) *by Rod Smith*
> > Untitled (strange Loop) *by Rod Smith*
> > Spider Wasp Or Literary Criticism *by Juliana Spahr*
> > After Long Conversation *by Chris Stroffolino*
> > Allowance Money That Is Death To You *by Chris Stroffolino*
> > As If We Could Ever Be Interested In What's Between The Points *by Chris
> > Stroffolino*
> > Circle Jerk *by Chris Stroffolino*
> > Fish Story *by Chris Stroffolino*
> > Fragile Blonde *by Chris Stroffolino*
> > To Keep Meaning From Emerging From The Mesh *by Chris Stroffolino*
> > Trade Off *by Chris Stroffolino*
> > When Desires Become Descriptions *by Chris Stroffolino*
> > Bizzarro World Adrift *by Edwin Torres*
> > Indian Hand Poem *by Edwin Torres*
> > Let's Go Swimming In The Key Of C (excerpt) *by Edwin Torres*
> > Liberal Beste *by Edwin Torres*
> > A Morir Sonando -- To Die Dreaming *by Edwin Torres*
> > A Page From The Flictionary Of Deafeningition *by Edwin Torres*
> > Tightrope Curves Across Equator *by Edwin Torres*
> > Sonnets Of A Penny-a-liner, Sels. *by Mark Wallace*
> > Between The Acts *by Elizabeth Willis*
> > Jordan (h-yrdn) *by Elizabeth Willis*
> > Under The Arc/of Disaster *by Elizabeth Willis*
> > Our Son The Arson, Sels. *by Thad Ziolkowski*
> >
> > On 18/08/2012 14:53, Peter Riley wrote:
> >
> > No. I didn't know that! I'd better run to the UL on Monday. Further
> > complications to a task which is already difficult, and complicated by the
> > fact that I don't really know what I think. Thanks a lot.
> > Peter
> >
> >
> >
> > On 18 Aug 2012, at 13:19, richard owens wrote:
> >
> > PETER:
> >
> > you might already be aware, but there was a dialog in Chicago Review
> > concerning American Hybrid beginning with Keith Tuma's comments in # 55:
> > 3/4 and extending into # 56: 1. Keith extends something of a fierce
> > critique in the former issue (as part of a feature on Robert Von Hallberg)
> > and then Cole Swensen, Kent Johnson, John Gallaher, and i respond in the
> > following one, with Keith considering these responses in a closing note.
> >
> > i don't know if this helps but worth, i suppose, pointing out.
> >
> > warmly ... rich ...
> >
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> >
> >
> >
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> > .
> > ******
> >
> >
> >
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