"My knowledge and search skills are inadequate to determine if vortex generators and reduced noise was well understood in the early 1990s.  The process chain relating to the nose is problematic in that tests on scale models appears to have occurred concurrently with computer simulations, both of which identified that a shape similar to that of the kingfisher delivered the best results.----"

During the late 1980s and early 1990s there was a lot of work in the aeronautic community regarding the standing vortex problem, and vortex shedding from swept wings as it affected control of fighters. The problem intensified because of vulnerability of jet fighters during the first Iraq war. The problem was that after diving for bombing the aircraft, due to instability, couldn't pull up at a sufficient rate and had to fly almost horizontal to the ground.     Naturally this made it subject to ground fire.  The problem was caused by the rate and position of the shed vortex by the wings.  The vortex sheet moved at higher speeds until separation took place and then it stood still at a distance from the wing.  When such a phenomena took place control of the aircraft was affected.  Most of the investigations done took place in water tunnels.   Also most of the information was either restricted or classified at the time.  So it is unlikely that the designers of the Shinkansen had access to the findings.  However, the Concord Jet Airliner had a similar problem with dissipation of shock waves, and lots of work was done to investigate the effect of the nose on aerodynamic noise and on drag reduction.  In that time frame most of the concord work was available.

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On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 9:25 PM, Filippo A. Salustri <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Norbert,
That's a pretty detailed "shot" you took!
Clearly, setting up some good case studies will require a lot of work, and may lead to a number of dead ends in cases where good documentation really cannot be found or doesn't exist.
Seems like a great research project, though.  Now if only there were a way to get funding for it....
/fas


On 22 August 2012 17:48, Norbert Hoeller <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
I took a shot at applying these criteria to some of the examples which Julian questioned in https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?A2=ind1208&L=biomimetics&D=0&P=12409.  I think the PAX impeller meets the 'outcome' criteria.  As I understand it, impellers are mature technology where improvements are relatively small.  The PAX impeller has demonstrated dramatically better efficiency in real-life situations.  Jay Harman says the inspiration came from observing seaweed that seemed to have weak connections to rocks but was able to deal with strong surge.  His observations led him to a unique understanding of how fluid moves, which he believes underlies a lot of natural phenomena.  His work led to complex fluid dynamics models that have resulted in several different impeller shapes which have been tested by independent third parties.

The Shinkansen bullet train story involves both redesign of the pantograph as well as the shape of the nose.  Nakatsu clearly states that the owl and the kingfisher inspired him to search for solutions to noise problems that at the time (project started in 1989) seemed intractable using existing knowledge and methods.  That said, the overall design of the quieter pantograph appears to be standard engineering with the possible exception of the vortex generators.  My knowledge and search skills are inadequate to determine if vortex generators and reduced noise was well understood in the early 1990s.  The process chain relating to the nose is problematic in that tests on scale models appears to have occurred concurrently with computer simulations, both of which identified that a shape similar to that of the kingfisher delivered the best results.

I agree that the Eastgate example involved at best an inaccurate analogy.  I do not have enough knowledge of either architecture or this project to determine how well the design meets the other attributes above.  Supposedly the energy consumption is dramatically less than a 'business as usual' design, but as Julian pointed out many cultures have come up with low-tech solutions well-adapted to their environments.

I think developing a good case study becomes increasingly difficult as we use form, process and systems for our analogies.  On the surface, a Living Machine is a fairly direct analogy to a wetland.  Then again, the solution has been successfully implemented as a cost-effective alternative to traditional waste water treatment.  It delivers the desired function in a resilient and adaptable manner in a way that people can directly observe (I doubt visiting a sewage treatment plant is high on most people's 'have to see' list).   The process of seeding and then allowing the plants to adapt also seems biomimetic.   In this case, 'quality of service' characteristics seem as important as the functionality.



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