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I think there's something about the length of sermons actually preached in
Paris in "L'Avènement des Maîtres de la Parole" by Nicole Bériou.
Unfortunately I do not have the book at hand at the moment, but I am pretty
sure there is something.
Best wishes, Marjorie


On 22 July 2012 14:07, V. K. Inman <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture
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> Is experimentation totally out of the question in medieval studies ? I
> mean why can't we read some of the Bickling Homilies for example and time
> them? This would give a ballpark figure--ballpark because we don't know
> what the delivery speed of the original preacher was. I'm not up to it
> right now, as I am bogged down with other work.
>
> V. K. Inman
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 7:48 AM, Cormack, Margaret Jean <[log in to unmask]
> > wrote:
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>> medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture
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>> I would also  be very interested  in the "usual  length"  of  sermons,
>> and or readings from
>>
>> saints'  lives which might  perhaps fill the same niche as a  sermon.
>> There are a few estimates
>>
>> for Iceland based on translated saints' lives (and in Iceland the
>> vernacular, not Latin, was the default
>>
>> language).
>>
>> In connection  with Bernard's "overwhelming sanctity", we should not
>> underestimate charisma.
>>
>> I once invited a guest lecturer to my institution who carried on, to a
>> spellbound audience, for two
>>
>> hours. Normally my students start sneaking out after the 45 minutes
>> required by an extra credit
>>
>> assignment, but not this time - they were rivited. The lecture was in
>> their native language, but
>>
>> it  was very unorganized (the  speaker never did  state his conclusion)
>> and while they all agreed
>>
>> it was one of the most fantastic experiences they had had at college,
>> they could  not  tell me
>>
>> in more than the most general way what it was about. ("Our  Lady of
>>  Guadalupe." "What about her?" "Uhhh . . . ."
>>
>> Meg
>>
>>
>>
>> From: medieval-religion - Scholarly discussions of medieval religious
>> culture [[log in to unmask]] on behalf of James Bugslag [
>> [log in to unmask]]
>> Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 5:17 PM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: [M-R] vernacular preaching
>>
>>
>> medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture
>> In relation to St Bernard's preaching mission in Germany, I just came
>> across the following: "Although the crowds could not understand the abbot's
>> French, they were moved to tears by his overpowering sanctity.  When,
>> however, a Benedictine monk skillfully translated the sermon into German,
>> the words lost their original force."  It seems remarkable that the crowd
>> would attend a whole sermon in a foreign language.  This leads me to wonder
>> how long a medieval sermon usually was.  Is there a "usual length"?
>> Jim
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