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Just thinking back over the years, there have been many times when our lives (the Sudells) have had significant help, or advice that has totally changed our direction and had an enormous impact on what we have been doing. I am a sentimental old cow but I must say I like it the way it is. I am just wondering where we would be without it...Help was there when the original brother partnership of the Sudells broke up and I took over with no knowledge of running a practice, as the very first nurse partner in GP, Setting up the huge extension and taking over a second practice, taking on salaried doctors (all 11 of them) All the IT issues we had. Then there was help setting up The Lifeback Clinic, (even to getting the door painted by one of the members of this list!) our move to the Isle of Shite and then the help from Graham with getting onto another list that has been so helpful out here in Ozland. We have had a few laughs over the years and i have learnt a lot. There have been times when I would like to have asked a question that I would like the friends on the list to give me advice on, especially recently, but I have kept quiet for only one reason - the list is public and searchable- and therefore I havent been able to ask but no matter. We will get through. :) On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 6:24 AM, Mary Hawking < [log in to unmask]> wrote: > ** ** ** ** > > If you change to a different list/Google group/whatever you will lose a > lot of members – and, I suspect, the majority of the occasional posters.** > ** > > Either from inertia or deliberate intent.**** > > Keep the list: keep the valuable archive (which is **threaded!**); and if > there is a suggestion that there should be a different list, or this one > should change, could someone give a reason other than catching up with > Facebook?**** > > ** ** > > *Mary Hawking* > "thinking - independent thinking - is to humans as swimming is to cats: we > can do it if we really have to." Mark Earles on Radio 4. **** > > don't forget patients like Fred! > http://primaryhealthinfo.wordpress.com/2012/03/11/whats-holding-fred-back/ > **** > > EMIS NUG Annual Conference - will you be there?**** > > www.emisnug.org.uk**** > > ****Warwick**** Conference 5th-7th Sept**** > > ** ** > ------------------------------ > > *From:* GP-UK [mailto:[log in to unmask]] *On Behalf Of *John Clegg > *Sent:* 18 July 2012 13:43 > > *To:* [log in to unmask] > *Subject:* Re: **Meta** : GP-UK > **** > > ** ** > > I haven't chipped in until now, but i agree entirely - leave well alone!** > ** > > ** ** > > I have little or no right to be here (not a GP, not even a PM any more!) > but I like the community so I hang around. I also run the Torex/iSOFT/now > CSC user group lists, so I have my finger in a relevant pie!**** > > ** ** > > If the team thinks a Google+ group is the way to go I don't mind kicking > one off - might be a way I can do my bit!**** > > ** ** > > John**** > > On 18 July 2012 13:35, Paul Miller <[log in to unmask]> wrote:**** > > I don't think we need to change anything about gp-uk, as such. On line > communities evolve and change and some live and some die - not much we can > reasonably do to change that. It has been pretty resilient against the > social networking revolution and more secure places like DNUK - here we all > still are, chatting. > > We could all start a FB group, or a Google Plus circle or whatever but it > will fragment and change things, and put in place new barriers and hurdles > for people to be able to contribute. The simplicity of an e-mail list is > one its great appeals (something we tried to replicate in the Vision UG > with a degree of success) and every change made loses part of the > community. I wouldn't say no to joining a Google group based on GP-UK > folk, but I think this would be 'as well as' rather than 'instead of' and > if it meant gp-uk slowly wilted then that would simply mean our need to > chat and share and contribute was being met by this new place. > > I don't know if gp-uk will still be around in 5 years, 10 years or even > next year but in many ways I do not think that matters so long as our > unique and eclectic virtual community has a place to be. > > To an extent I have argued myself into agreeing with you, Saul. I don't > think we need to change GP-UK, but we could kick off another place and > invite the gp-uk community to join. If I understood more about Google+ I > would suggest there. FB is too mad. Reddit too out of control. DNUK too > DNUK-ish and exclusive. All proprietary community tools have disadvantages > - turning the users into a product, requiring a specific and separate log > in or application to access, the existence of your community dependent on > the ideals, direction and viability of its provider... but such is their > nature - there are many advantages also. > > Shall we try it out? Google +? > > You start. ;) > > -- > Paul > > Dr Paul Miller > Tel: 07711-346-928 > SCIMP Conference 2012 - Crieff Hydro Nov 6th and 7th > @SCIMPConference > > > **** > > On 4 July 2012 10:59, Russell Brown <[log in to unmask]> wrote:**** > > I rarely post but would miss it if it were gone. Others' comments cover > the points I would make.**** > > ** ** > > Regards**** > > ** ** > > Russell > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > ****Manor** **Park**** Medical Centre > www.manorparksurgery.com > Tel 01323482301 > **East Sussex** Local Medical Committee (Chair) > www.sslmcs.co.uk/ > Tel 01372389270**** > > Twitter: @drbrown1970 > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > Have your say about NHS market reforms > > Visit www.lookafterournhs.org.uk **** > > ** ** > > > > **** > > On 4 July 2012 10:36, Julian Bradley <[log in to unmask]> wrote:** > ** > > GP-UK is GP-UK. There are already many other places, and those who wish > go to them instead or as well. > > Great that we have a variety of options, but this is free, there is no > advertising, no looming threat of fees, and the expertise here for some > issues is superb. > > Hope the list will continue, and perhaps those with registrars will get > them to post a few questions? > > JB > GP > > > **** > > interesting discussion, have lurked for a while and occasionally posted. > > would > > http://www.networks.nhs.uk/ > > be the place to migrate too? > > allows easy linking to other "idea" clusters > > Mark Westwood > Gp**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > ** ** >