I would so hate to lose touch..and memories of those no longer with us...keep GPUK as a sign of respect to those who would spin in their grave to see it gone.

On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 12:37 PM, Jel Coward <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

Keep it here.

It is different from previously - but that is likely a sign that we all do more things online now - and whatever way we did this usage would likely be the same.

I tweet @jelcoward @WEMSIint @TheCAREcourse

and I facebook as Jel Coward

ie. I am reasonably connected with the modern world

.........but I don't see those things replacing gp-uk

GP-UK is not private but it is not as public as those things

Just my thoughts :)

jel

On 3 July 2012 19:02, jenny sudell <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

Be very sad to lose this wonderful resource.
I still ask the odd question,
No-one here could name the "earworm" that was identified on here.

I know that Jel has helped me with certain issues we have had since moving to remote Oz, without Graham, we would never had met Nat Div, which is the list I use now (which is almost identical but a lot more colourful) than GPUK.

Surely there is some way we can still stay in touch?
Jen

On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 7:42 AM, Ewan Davis <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

Hi,

Saul is right that we should take stock. There was a time when I used GP UK
to monitor my Internet connection - If there wasn't a post from GP-UK every
minute or so I knew my confection was down.

We face a similar issue on the PHCSG discuss list, although this is more
active than GP-UK.

I think many doctors have headed of to doctors.net But this is not a place
open to me and the many other non-clinicians with expertise in primary care
- A strength of this list is that it open to anyone with an interest in UK
GP.

My online life has moved on. Twitter is the place I watch minute to minute,
backed-up by my own blog and those of others for longer discussions. I use
Facebook heavily, but purely for social stuff and LinkedIn for to keep track
of business contacts, occasional dipping in to the groups, but there are
just too many to keep up with.

I recently set up a discussion forum as part of the HANDI web site
http://www.handihealth.org/discussion-forum to early to judge, but this
approach has higher online visibility and supports a push-email approach for
those who don't want to have to keep checking the site. Google Groups offer
the same dual approach but is buggy and poorly supported with Google pushing
G+ (which I like but which hasn't really taken off.)

There are also lots of other discussion forums, like EHI, the User Groups.
Too many to keep up with. Life was simpler when there was just GP-UK.

There are tools to help you keep up and the reintegrate multiple channels.
I've been using http://ifttt.com/ which currently supports 47 channels
(interestingly not G+) and thinks like http://stackexchange.com/sites#
provide a good approach to getting consolidated crowd sourced answers. Then
there's RSS, iGoogle - All too much.

Not sure where this takes us, but think GP-UK is probably past it sell-by
date. Maybe http://www.portal.nhsocial.net/ could provide a new home.

Ewan

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-----Original Message-----
From: GP-UK [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Saul Galloway
Sent: 03 July 2012 21:31
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Meta : GP-UK

I just want to try to open a discussion with the list about where GP-UK as
an entity is going.

Statement of interest : I'm still here since qualification as a dr in 1987,
so clearly there's something valued in it for me.

There's a handful of people on the list I've met face to face once or twice,
that was early on, putting faces to some key names improved the list
experience for me. There's (at least) a couple of early participants I miss,
in exactly the same way I miss some face to face relationships. There's a
lot of old timers I "feel" I know on some level.

Back in the day the internet was new, we were on dial up, and email,
listserv, and irc was cutting edge, but times move on and my 21 year old son
and 23 year old registrar have never heard of mail lists.

There's also an issue of visibility/marketing. I believe as a list both
membership numbers and postings we are on a shrinking trend, I'm not aware
of any plan to increase participation/visibility which implies a decreasing
spiral until we disappear up our own orifice and Tref is the last man
standing. If we think this thing has value we should consider promoting it.

I think we need to consider de-camping to something that is currently more
mainstream like Facebook, or Google groups. If we think the GP-UK
"experience" can offer something positive to others we need to get off our
arse and and make it so.

For me GP-UK is triangulation, sanity checks, peer support, canny tactics,
battle hardened colleagues, tapping into experience, mentoring, MDTs,
interdisciplinary relationships, sounding boards, networking, cynicism, and
that strange oddity e "friendship".

Do we / should we care? and if so, then what to do?

Saul

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