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At the Arvon in Totleigh Barton, though I'm unsure how deep that makes it in Devon the signal's hard to come by, confined to a few blades of grass some outsized slugs are advancing on... Sent using BlackBerry® from Orange -----Original Message----- From: Tim Allen <[log in to unmask]> Sender: British & Irish poets <[log in to unmask]> Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2012 12:06:42 To: <[log in to unmask]> Reply-To: British & Irish poets <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Blake in Cambridge Hi Jamie, I'm in even deeper Devon - it's called Plymouth. Where are you? Cheers Tim A. On 3 Jul 2012, at 17:16, Jamie Mckendrick wrote: > Hi Tim, I wouldn't at all exclude radicalism in poetry, just that we > don't share a view of the richness of this particular debate. With > his reference to Eliot as 'an old fart' I can't anyway imagine Sean > will be too troubled by anything in mine. > I'm in deep Devon where coverage is minimal so excuse this skimpy > reply. > Best, > Jamie > Sent using BlackBerry® from Orange > From: Tim Allen <[log in to unmask]> > Sender: British & Irish poets <[log in to unmask]> > Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2012 13:08:28 +0100 > To: <[log in to unmask]> > ReplyTo: British & Irish poets <[log in to unmask]> > Subject: Re: Blake in Cambridge > > Sorry Jamie, but I think that's a bit cheap. The argument between > Ben and Sean, which I admit has its funny side, is in fact a real > one. Both are writers who have a view of poetry as being a radical > tool and if you see poetry as being a possible radical tool then you > are going to have such arguments, however silly they might appear to > those who just don't get that. That political radicalism used to be > an important source of much of the British avant garde's particular > texture and force, and it lives on in poets like Bonney, however > much bourgeois aesthetics and the American influences have cooled it > down over recent years. > > Cheers > > Tim A. > > On 1 Jul 2012, at 17:32, Jamie McKendrick wrote: > >> Good game - can anyone play? To outradical the opponent with >> illuminating references to Finnegans Wake and adjust readings of >> Blake to the shifting exigencies of domestic politics between >> 2010-2012. Perhaps the SWP and the Cambridge English Dept could go >> halves on the trophy. >