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Hi Steven and list
Sorry – “YMMV” = “your mileage may vary” = US railroad term I’ve picked up = “your experience may differ”.
Richard
Richard Taylor BA MArAd | Archives & Local History Development Manager
City of York Council | Libraries & Heritage
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YORK: GATEWAY TO HISTORY - our major project to transform access to 800 years of York's archives. www.yorkgatewaytohistory.org.uk
From: Archivists, conservators and records managers. [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
On Behalf Of Steven Davies
Sent: 05 July 2012 13:17
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Subject: Re: Highly recommended - "Unsolicited advice for new archivists"
I'm sure many of us, myself included, will have encountered both sides of the coin:
-Coming new into a workplace and being told "we have a certain [outdated?] way of working" and not being listened to, frustrating when you can see there are more efficient ways of doing things.
-On the other hand, having people come on e.g. work experience, who start telling you how you should be doing your job and making unworkable suggestions, without being willing to learn how things
work in the first instance.
I guess the solution, as said, is knowing how, when and to whom to pitch your ideas to get them across and put into practice (while being diplomatic about it!)
PS - what is YMMV?
Steven Davies
Archivist / Archifydd
Flintshire Record Office / Archifdy Sir y Fflint
Tel./Ffôn: (01244) 532414
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Hmmm. Well, as I said, I don’t agree with all of it, and no-one else will either. But debate is good. I obviously don’t know Craig’s experiences in this.
I personally can’t say that in 24 years I’ve noticed a climate of fear (real or imaginary) in archives. What I have noticed, repeatedly, is people who can’t work out that there
are many different ways of getting your ideas across to different audiences and to different hierarchies, and that you need to choose the most appropriate one and/or the one with the highest chance of success in the circumstances. Which involves an understanding
of where your target audience might be coming from, including their fears, prejudices, and areas of ignorance.
YMMV, as they say in the USA.
Richard Taylor BA MArAd
| Archives & Local History Development Manager
City of York Council
| Libraries & Heritage
18 Back Swinegate | York YO1 8ZD
YORK: GATEWAY TO HISTORY - our major project to transform access to 800 years of
York's archives. www.yorkgatewaytohistory.org.uk
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On Behalf Of Moore, Craig
Sent: 05 July 2012 11:30
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Subject: Re: Highly recommended - "Unsolicited advice for new archivists"
“I recommend that wannabe archivists exercise the utmost caution when taking initiative as a student worker,
intern, or paraprofessional. While this is often considered a “positive” attribute, they need to be aware of how their actions might be perceived by the professionals…. they should be very aware of anything they do or say which might be interpreted as disrespectful
or undermining. Be very conscious of which channels are appropriate for sharing ideas, brainstorming, and initiating projects. Intentions are a lot less important than perceptions”
*Sigh*
This (in my experience wholly unjustified) attitude of fear is what stops anyone, saying anything halfway interesting in this field.
Best wishes.
Craig Alexander Moore
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Sent: 05 July 2012 10:28
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Subject: Highly recommended - "Unsolicited advice for new archivists"
Hello listees
Right, I suppose that this is archives-nra equivalent of a retweet.
The posting and link below came in last week from Peter Kurilecz. I finally got around to clicking on it today, because someone shoved a mug of tea under my nose so I decided to pause from other
work for a moment. Otherwise I suspect I would just have deleted it.
Follow the link. Look beyond the US-specific examples that Kate Theimer cites to the more general points she’s making. There’s a lot of useful advice in this post and the follow-up comments, pithily
expressed, and not just relevant to new archivists either.
I don’t agree with it all (no-one will), but I particularly liked the remarks about learning to live with ambiguity, and about finding out the appropriate channels for sharing ideas, brainstorming
and initiating projects.
Cheers all
Richard
My Unsolicited Advice « NewArchivist
I am writing in response to Kate Theimer’s great post over at ArchivesNext,
Honest tips for wannabe archivists out there, where she discusses some advice given to people thinking about becoming archivists via Twitter and email. I encourage you to go over and read it along with the great comments. I started to write a comment and
it grew and grew until no comment section could contain it.
http://bit.ly/QsCfLa
Richard Taylor BA MArAd
| Archives & Local History Development Manager
City of York Council
| Libraries & Heritage
18 Back Swinegate | York YO1 8ZD
YORK: GATEWAY TO HISTORY - our major project to transform access to 800 years of
York's archives. www.yorkgatewaytohistory.org.uk
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On Behalf Of Peter Kurilecz
Sent: 28 June 2012 17:51
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Subject: My Unsolicited Advice « NewArchivist
My Unsolicited Advice « NewArchivist
I am writing in response to Kate Theimer’s great post over at ArchivesNext,
Honest tips for wannabe archivists out there, where she discusses some advice given to people thinking about becoming archivists via Twitter and email. I encourage you to go over and read it along with the great comments. I started to write a comment and
it grew and grew until no comment section could contain it.
http://bit.ly/QsCfLa
Source:
http://newarchivist.com/2012/06/28/my-unsolicited-advice/
See if people are clicking on this link:
http://bit.ly/QsCfLa+
Try the bitly.com sidebar to see who is talking about a page on the web:
http://bitly.com/pages/sidebar
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