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Yes, the Eva Amsen blog certainly is 'interesting' -- (http://easternblot.net/2012/06/23/science-its-a-geek-thing/) -- 'Science, it's a geek thing' is just as bad as 'Science, it's girl thing'. I love (not) the line: "It’s not their girliness that prevents them from choosing science; it’s their lack of appreciation for intelligence." -- how arrogant, derogatory, elitist... I'd much rather sign up for Alice Bell's 'Science, it's a people thing', instead of reaffirming the idea that science is a special club for people who pass the geek litmus test: "Science isn’t a girl thing. Or a boy thing. Or a white thing. Or a posh thing. Or an old people thing. Or an atheist thing. Or a geek thing. At its best, as Deb Blum says, science is a people thing." https://alicerosebell.wordpress.com/2012/06/25/science-a-people-thing Wynn -----Original Message----- From: psci-com: on public engagement with science [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Rachel Thomas Sent: 26 June 2012 12:07 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [PSCI-COM] Female role model research Eva Amsen has just written an interesting blog on this subject http://easternblot.net/2012/06/23/science-its-a-geek-thing/ which points out two great projects tackling stereotypes of scientists and mathematicians: http://lookslikescience.tumblr.com/ and http://www.sciencecheerleader.com/ Perhaps in the end we have to acknowledge that we are all different, attracted to science for different reasons and with different interests outside the subject. We do career interviews with people working in maths (http://plus.maths.org/content/CareerII) and have found there is as much difference within the sets of female interviewees and male interviewees, as between them. No one project aiming to inspire people to study and work in science will appeal to all women or all men. Instead we need to present the real diversity of people behind the science and it's great to hear about projects such as these making a start on that. Rachel -- Rachel Thomas Editor, Plus Online Magazine http://plus.maths.org Millennium Mathematics Project Centre for Mathematical Sciences University of Cambridge Follow us on Twitter http://twitter.com/plusmathsorg ********************************************************************** Further information about the psci-com discussion list, including list archive, can be found at the list web site: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/psci-com.html You may also change your settings and subscribe/unsubscribe to psci-com from the web site. Psci-com is part of the National Academic Mailing List Service, known as 'JISCMail'. It adheres to the JISCMail Acceptable Use Policy: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/policyandsecurity/acceptableuse.html and to the JISCMail guidelines for etiquette: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/policyandsecurity/etiquette.html Email commands: 1. To suspend yourself from the list, whilst on leave, for example, send an email to mailto:[log in to unmask] with the following message: set psci-com nomail -- [include hyphens] 2. To resume email from the list, send an email to [log in to unmask] with the message: set psci-com mail -- [include hyphens] 3. To leave psci-com, send an email to [log in to unmask] with the message: leave psci-com -- [include hyphens] Please allow up to 24 hours for these commands to activate. Remember that you will need to send commands using the same email address that you used to register on psci-com. To contact the Psci-com list owner, please send an email to: [log in to unmask] ********************************************************************** ********************************************************************** Further information about the psci-com discussion list, including list archive, can be found at the list web site: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/psci-com.html You may also change your settings and subscribe/unsubscribe to psci-com from the web site. Psci-com is part of the National Academic Mailing List Service, known as 'JISCMail'. It adheres to the JISCMail Acceptable Use Policy: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/policyandsecurity/acceptableuse.html and to the JISCMail guidelines for etiquette: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/policyandsecurity/etiquette.html Email commands: 1. To suspend yourself from the list, whilst on leave, for example, send an email to mailto:[log in to unmask] with the following message: set psci-com nomail -- [include hyphens] 2. To resume email from the list, send an email to [log in to unmask] with the message: set psci-com mail -- [include hyphens] 3. To leave psci-com, send an email to [log in to unmask] with the message: leave psci-com -- [include hyphens] Please allow up to 24 hours for these commands to activate. Remember that you will need to send commands using the same email address that you used to register on psci-com. To contact the Psci-com list owner, please send an email to: [log in to unmask] **********************************************************************