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I have just returned home from a scientific conference which gives information about available childcare arrangements as part of the as standard information about where to get coffee etc. When we are in the room listening to the talks we often hear the children playing in public areas. During times of social interaction, females (and males) are seen walking around with babies attached to their bodies by various devices. Each year the family presence at this conference has become larger every year. I may be helpful to let people know that, to some extent, the culture surrounding the doing of science is changing to become more compatible with family life (and life in general). Lesley ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lesley Newson College of Life and Environmental Sciences, University of Exeter Department of Environmental Science and Policy, UCDavis Culture editor of The Evolution Institutes's online magazine: Evolution: This View of Life (http://www.binghamton.edu/thisviewoflife/index.php) ________________________________________ From: psci-com: on public engagement with science [[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of dianne stilwell [[log in to unmask]] Sent: 18 June 2012 15:10 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [PSCI-COM] Female role model research Hmmm - I worry about "not clever enough". Surely, as with most things in life, there is room in the really broad church of science , engineering and technology for the clever - and the not so clever. I think role models have to be achievable - "someone like me" and so maybe we don't always want the leaders, the clever, or the good-looking as role models, but the ones who have made good - and good as defined as all sorts of things - career, family, travel, but above all enthusiasm. Ages ago I remember Averil MacDonald (are you out there Averil?) telling me she was collecting case studies of 'failures' - those who had gone on to have interesting careers despite poor A levels, not going to uni, dropping out or whatever - on the grounds that kids were more likely to relate to them than someone who'd got straight A's, a first and then a PhD no sweat. Dianne Dianne Stilwell 88 Munster Road Teddington Middx TW11 9LW +44 (0)20 8977 6510 +44 (0)7957 200214 [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> On 18 Jun 2012, at 14:22, Courtney Williams wrote: Emily: Or they come from socio-economic backgrounds that don't allow them to get a realistic view of scientific careers beyond what's presented in the media. Don't equate that with "not clever enough" - that same media does that enough already. Sheila: Sadly, that is idealistic. I wish it were the case that we could all be ourselves and everything would work out, but obviously it isn't (I know this from experience). 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