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Then Welsh should be welsh all the time as it derives from usage not because it is right. David Evans Historic Environment Record Officer (Postal Address) Strategic Planning Policy & Specialist Advice Department of Environment and Community Services PO Box 2081 The Council Offices, Castle Street Thornbury South Gloucestershire BS35 9BP Phone: 01454 863649 fax: 01454 864473 Visit our HER on Line at http://maps.southglos.gov.uk/CommunityMap/ ________________________________ From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of CARLISLE, Philip Sent: 22 June 2012 10:05 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Gypsy Just because it's more common doesn't make it right. In the same way that usage allows the use of -ise, -ising and -isation when the correct British English is -ize, -izing and -ization (except for those words derived from Latin). The OED didn't even give organisation as an acceptable variant of organization until 1993. Phil Phil Carlisle Data Standards Supervisor Data Standards Unit, Designations Department English Heritage The Engine House Fire Fly Avenue Swindon SN2 2EH Tel: +44 (0)1793 414824 http://thesaurus.english-heritage.org.uk/ The information contained within this e-mail is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended for the addressee only. If you have received the e-mail in error, please inform the sender and delete it from your system. The contents of this e-mail must not be disclosed to anyone else or copied without the sender's consent. Any views and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of English Heritage. English Heritage will not take any responsibility for the views of the author. P Please do not print this e-mail unless you really need to ________________________________ From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of David Evans Sent: 22 June 2012 10:01 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Gypsy I remain unconvinced: usage suggests both are acceptable with lower case more common. David Evans Historic Environment Record Officer (Postal Address) Strategic Planning Policy & Specialist Advice Department of Environment and Community Services PO Box 2081 The Council Offices, Castle Street Thornbury South Gloucestershire BS35 9BP Phone: 01454 863649 fax: 01454 864473 Visit our HER on Line at http://maps.southglos.gov.uk/CommunityMap/ <http://maps.southglos.gov.uk/CommunityMap/> ________________________________ From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of CARLISLE, Philip Sent: 22 June 2012 09:49 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Gypsy Actually you should capitalize Welsh as it is derived from a proper noun. Phil Phil Carlisle Data Standards Supervisor Data Standards Unit, Designations Department English Heritage The Engine House Fire Fly Avenue Swindon SN2 2EH Tel: +44 (0)1793 414824 http://thesaurus.english-heritage.org.uk/ The information contained within this e-mail is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended for the addressee only. If you have received the e-mail in error, please inform the sender and delete it from your system. The contents of this e-mail must not be disclosed to anyone else or copied without the sender's consent. Any views and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of English Heritage. English Heritage will not take any responsibility for the views of the author. P Please do not print this e-mail unless you really need to ________________________________ From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of David Evans Sent: 22 June 2012 09:38 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Gypsy Surely Gypsy is only capitalised when used as a proper noun, not as an adjective; you would not capitalise welsh rarebit, now there is a racial slur and a half! 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