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Dear Chris, I would agree that it would be desirable to include the term 'Anderson Shelter' on the TMT, but if it is, then surely other proprietary or eponymous types should also be included e.g. Bison, Locksheet, Braithwaite, etc. This then raises a possible problem, that of reliable identification of type. I have frequently been told by individuals that they have an Anderson air raid shelter at the end of the garden, but when I get to have a look, it can be a different type, e.g. the two domestic Stanton shelters I mentioned in my HERFORUM e-mail yesterday. If these terms are to be used, they must be reliably sourced and or positively identified. Regards, Roger J C Thomas Assistant Designation Adviser (West) ________________________________ From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Chris Wardle Sent: 22 June 2012 09:40 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Stanton Shelter Candidate Term Phil, Could we also have 'ANDERSON SHELTER' on the TMT? Chris Chris Wardle City Archaeologist Planning & Economic Development A11, New Walk Centre Leicester. LE1 6ZG From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of CARLISLE, Philip Sent: 22 June 2012 09:16 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Stanton Shelter Candidate Term Dear all, STANTON SHELTER has been added to the Thesaurus of Monument Types. We are currently in the process of incorporating terms from the DoB thesaurus into the TMT and as such we are no longer adding to the DoB. Phil Phil Carlisle Data Standards Supervisor Data Standards Unit, Designations Department English Heritage The Engine House Fire Fly Avenue Swindon SN2 2EH Tel: +44 (0)1793 414824 http://thesaurus.english-heritage.org.uk/ The information contained within this e-mail is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended for the addressee only. If you have received the e-mail in error, please inform the sender and delete it from your system. The contents of this e-mail must not be disclosed to anyone else or copied without the sender's consent. Any views and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of English Heritage. English Heritage will not take any responsibility for the views of the author. P Please do not print this e-mail unless you really need to ________________________________ From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records [mailto:[log in to unmask]]<mailto:[mailto:[log in to unmask]]> On Behalf Of THOMAS, Roger J C Sent: 21 June 2012 16:40 To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Stanton Shelter Candidate Term Typical example of parabolic design ________________________________ From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records [mailto:[log in to unmask]]<mailto:[mailto:[log in to unmask]]> On Behalf Of Sarah Orr Sent: 21 June 2012 16:28 To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Stanton Shelter Candidate Term Interesting Gill, thanks for that. Seems like there was therefore more than one 'Stanton' type of shelter, as your leaflet shows a different design (tubular) to the ones we've got in West Berkshire - they look more like this example I found on the web http://www.freewebs.com/ashdowncamp/stantonshelter.htm. I've also now noted that the Defence of Britain data on ADS includes the searchable term 'Stanton Shelter' though it's not shown in my current thesaurus... Sarah Orr ________________________________ From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records [mailto:[log in to unmask]]<mailto:[mailto:[log in to unmask]]> On Behalf Of Stroud,Gill (Environmental Services) Sent: 21 June 2012 16:08 To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Stanton Shelter Candidate Term By one of those bizarre coincidences which turn up in life now and then, I had this little leaflet on Stanton Air Raid Shelters out on my desk ready to scan for someone - so here it is for HERs everywhere. No date on it, I'm afraid. Gill Gill Stroud Historic Environment Record Officer Tel. 01629 533357 ________________________________ From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records [mailto:[log in to unmask]]<mailto:[mailto:[log in to unmask]]> On Behalf Of Chris Wardle Sent: 21 June 2012 15:51 To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Stanton Shelter Candidate Term It would make sense to me. But I would suggest having a hierarchy of terms under 'AIR RAID SHELTER' The next level down would the either 'DOMESTIC AIR RAID SHETER' under which 'ANDERSON SHELTER', 'MORRISON SHELTER' and the posher domestic shelters in sold brick with a reinforced concrete roof (for which l've never seen a suitable -any ideas?) Alongside which there would be 'PUBLIC AIR RAID SHELTER' which would include 'STANTON SHELTER' along with any other varieties folk can think of. Chris From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records [mailto:[log in to unmask]]<mailto:[mailto:[log in to unmask]]> On Behalf Of Sarah Orr Sent: 21 June 2012 15:36 To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> Subject: Stanton Shelter Candidate Term Dear all I've recently been made aware by the Pillbox Study Group of a type of Second World War air raid shelter called Stanton Shelters, manufactured I believe by the Stanton Ironworks in Derbyshire as precast concrete arches which were bolted together to create large tunnels. Having looked on Heritage Gateway I see a few other HERs have recorded these under the general term AIR RAID SHELTER. We've got Anderson and Morrison Shelters in the DoB Thesaurus. Is anyone in favour of Stanton Shelter being added as another term? 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