Tim and all
 
You must think I’m the rudest person on the planet for failing to reply three weeks ago! Unfortunately, I’ve been ill with a jaw infection and my face blew up like a balloon. Lots of agony in the weeks I have to mark literacy tests (this makes me doubly sick).
 
Tim, thanks for yours and I’m sure we agree about much. In a couple of weeks I’ll be at the same event as Michael Rosen and might get to speak to him.
 
I find it sad: why couldn’t arts funding for youth slams be given directly to young people themselves to determine the forum in which they’d choose to perform? In Norwich, young people are hit twice: there’s no youth service and no venues (beyond pubs) where poets and musicians can cut it for themselves.
 
At the college where I teach, the students (who have moderate learning difficulties) organise their own talent show. Teachers and LSAs merely act as run-arounds. I love it (as audience, not organiser).
 
Best wishes, Rupert
 
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Subject: Re: Slam Poetry slams poetry
 
Bloody nora Rupert, you've said something that I agree with, and very strongly too. Yes, this is quite awful, but hardly surprising. I've given my opinions about slams etc here on the list more than once but you are right, this is something different. It shows an ignorance, on Apples and Snakes part, of both poetry and children/education. I also think it comes from that strange mix of naivety and cynicism which underpins their ethos.
 
Who among the high up mainstream and performance poetry names know about this? It would be interesting to know what people like Zephaniah and Michael Rosen think about it and wether they would be will ing to publicly condemn it (or not).
 
I have next to no contact with Apples and Snakes these days but I will certainly be letting them know what I think about this.
 
Thanks for posting this news.
 
Cheers
 
Tim A.
   
On 27 May 2012, at 21:16, Rupert Mallin wrote:

Hi
 
Sadly, Apples & Snakes, the UK poetry organisation which once pioneered equality and diversity in poetry, has rolled out across the country a series of youth (13 to 16 year olds) poetry slam competitions. My local is at The Garage, Norwich.
 
I attended the first British slam at Chats Palace Hackney way back in 1993 and absolutely hated it but at least the contestants were fully consenting adults. Yes, children take part in written poetry competitions (which I personally dislike) but it’s not quite the same as being humiliated on stage as a loser. Has it come to this: Apples & Snakes are at the forefront of the Michael Gove view of Culture? I think they are. Poetry Slams for kids is a widely advertised competition. Yet, poetry slams for adults have largely bitten the dust. At 12 to 16 years of age, adults can shape the content of young people’s poetry, while loving the "’newness” of the form, the delivery. That is, the competition is about “content” becoming “form.” Indeed, I argue, all education is now to this end: English as Literacy, Plays as Theatre Study, Poetry as Bones.
 
The Garage in Norwich teaches theatre and performance skills. There is no playtext, social context, no text. While there is no youth service in Norfolk and Norwich anymore, the Garage enjoys substantial public funding – for providing performing skills to young people without any context whatsoever. Juggling, tap, dance, voice projection, etc. Perhaps all young people in Norwich will overnight find themselves middle class and juggle for a living – or win an Apple & Snakes kids’s poetry slam – where kid knocks out kid. Loser! Loser!
 
Surely, poetry is IT because it is a shared human experience, not a game of Snakes & Ladders. If you know anyone in Apple & Snakes make them ashamed of standing with the ethos of failing children who write and read poetry out loud.
 
All best wishes, Rupert