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Ydi, ond mae 'na lot o drafod hyn ar y we - a'i bod yn hen arfer yn Saesneg -yn ôl yn y 10fed ganrif - i bobl ddechrau brawddeg efo 'and' a 'but'. Y farn gyffredinol hyd y gwela'i yw ei bod yn hollol iawn mewn testunau gweddol anffurfiol. _____ Oddi wrth/From: Discussion of Welsh language technical terminology and vocabulary [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Ar ran Sian Roberts Anfonwyd/Sent: 17 Mai 2012 16:42 At/To: [log in to unmask] Pwnc/Subject: Re: ATB/RE: Cymraeg Clir Da! Onid yw rhif 3 yn cyfeirio at ddefnyddio 'but' ar ddechrau brawddeg? Siân On 17 Mai 2012, at 16:27, David Bullock wrote: Roeddwn i’n meddwl y byddai gan Safire gyngor ar ‘but’ ar ddechrau brawddegau Saesneg. Ond roeddwn i’n anghywir. Ond mae ganddo fe gynghorion difyr iawn ar bwyntiau eraill... Great Rules for Writing from William Safire in the New York Times 1. Do not put statements in the negative form. 2. Remember to never split an infinitive. 3. And don't start sentences with a conjunction. 4. It is incumbent on one to avoid archaisms. 5. The passive voice should never be used. 6. Verbs have to agree with their subjects. 7. Proofread care-fully to see if you words out. 8. If you reread your work, you can find on rereading a great deal of repetition can be avoided by rereading and editing. 9. Never use a long word when a diminutive one will do. 10. Unqualified superlatives are the worst of all. 11. A writer must not shift your point of view. 12. De-accession euphemisms. 13. If any word is improper at the end of a sentence, a linking verb is. 14. Remember, too, a preposition is a terrible word to end a sentence with. 15. Don't overuse exclamation marks!! 16. Avoid trendy locutions that sound flaky. 17. Never, ever use repetitive redundancies. 18. Place pronouns as close as possible, especially in long sentences, as of 10 or more words, to their antecedents. 19. Also, avoid awkward or affected alliteration. 20. Writing carefully, dangling participles must be avoided. 21. Take the bull by the hand and avoid mixing metaphors. 22. Everyone should be careful to use a singular pronoun with singular nouns in their writing. 23. Always pick on the correct idiom. 24. The adverb always follows the verb. 25. Last but not least, avoid cliches like the plague; seek viable alternatives. From: Discussion of Welsh language technical terminology and vocabulary [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Ar ran/On Behalf OfCathrin Alwen Llywelyn Sent: 17 Mai 2012 15:30 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Cymraeg Clir (Ond!) oedd yna ryw reol yn rhywle nad oedd rhywun i fod i ddechrau brawddeg efo 'ond'? Dwi'n tueddu i ddefnyddio 'Fodd bynnag' , 'Serch hynny' neu 'Er hynny' ar ddechrau brawddeg. Cathrin Alwen Llywelyn Cyfieithydd / Translator Aelod Cyflawn o Gymdeithas Cyfieithwyr Cymru / Full Member of The Association of Welsh Translators and Interpreters 1, Pentir Caspian/Caspian Point, Pierhead Street, Bae Caerdydd/Cardiff Bay CF10 4DQ 07877325954 / 02920 444051 <mailto:[log in to unmask]> [log in to unmask] -----Original Message----- From: anna gruffydd <[log in to unmask]> To: WELSH-TERMAU-CYMRAEG <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Thu, 17 May 2012 15:23 Subject: Re: Cymraeg Clir Dwi hefyd yn dueddol o ddefnyddio 'ond' yn lle pethau eraill, a throi'r frawddeg rownd; ond dwi'n dal i feddwl bod 'eisoes' yn wella nag 'yn barod' - mae 'yn barod' yn swnio fel cyfieithiad i mi. Anna 2012/5/17 Geraint Lovgreen <[log in to unmask]> Dwi'n tueddu i roi "ond" yn hytrach na "fodd bynnag" am "however" mewn cyfieithiadau llai ffurfiol. Mae'r awgrym yn iawn - a dim ond awgrym ydi o! Ar ba sail mae "serch hynny" yn well nag "ond", ac "eisoes" yn well nag "yn barod"? Geraint ----- Original Message ----- From: anna gruffydd <mailto:[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 3:08 PM Subject: Re: Cymraeg Clir Dwi'n teimlo erioed fod rhai argymhellion Cymraeg Clir yn ardderchog ac eraill yn mynd dros ben llestri o ran 'moderneiddio' neu 'wneud i blant deimlo'n braf' - yr union enghreifftia rwyt ti'n son amdanynt. Anna 2012/5/17 Sian Roberts <[log in to unmask]> Ydi - ond mae'n dweud pethau braidd yn od - Mae'n awgrymu osgoi 'geiriau diarth' fel "eisoes" a "serch hynny" a defnyddio "yn barod" ac "ond" yn eu lle wrth ysgrifennu defnyddiau cyhoeddus. Hmm! Siân On 17 Mai 2012, at 14:48, David Bullock wrote: Erbyn hyn, mae @Cymraeg_Clir wedi ymuno ag @EinCymraeg ym myd Twitter, i'r sawl sydd â diddordeb.