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Hi Sheila, and thanks a million, Randolph On 19/05/2012 20:04, Sheila Murphy wrote: > Sheila votes wtih Randolph, whose recent book I'm out to get!!!! Hi, > Randolph :) > > On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 11:13 AM, Randolph Healy > <[log in to unmask]>wrote: > >> marvellous stuff Lawrence, many thanks. >> >> FWIW there's a word in the Irish language, cóngar, which implies >> closeness, proximity, in the neighbourhood of, "an cóngar" would be a >> shortcut. >> >> best >> >> and please feel free to be as expansively knowledgeable and witty as this >> anytime, >> >> Randolph >> >> >> >> >> On 19/05/2012 14:04, Lawrence Upton wrote: >> >>> didnt seem to get through >>> >>> ---------------------------- Original Message ---------------------------- >>> Subject: Re: Perconger >>> From: "Lawrence Upton"<[log in to unmask]> >>> Date: Sat, May 19, 2012 11:45 >>> To: "Poetryetc: poetry and poetics"<[log in to unmask]**AC.UK<[log in to unmask]> >>> ------------------------------**------------------------------** >>> -------------- >>> >>> Hi Chris (and Sheila) and thanks for your comments. >>> >>> I am not quite sure what constitutes English in a good way poetry; but >>> I'll not argue. >>> >>> I shall now tell you more than you may want to know >>> >>> This is England but... It is Scilly. Scilly is in the extreme south-west >>> of Britain, about three hours off the coast of Cornwall, or twenty minutes >>> if you go by air. >>> >>> Cornwall is not England whatever the English say. Scilly is. Not that it >>> matters except in terms of dealing with the buffoons who rule us. >>> >>> Relate it, if you will, to my many poems about the bar between St Agnes >>> and The Gugh. That bar creates two coves, bays, whatever between the two >>> islands - there is basically a drowned valley between in which a bar has >>> formed. (Two asynch tides) >>> >>> The southern cove is called The Cove. It used to have a different Cornish >>> name which I have either forgotten or never knew. The Cove is undeniably >>> an English name and Cornish hasn't been spoken on Scilly for many >>> centuries. The Gugh, too, is English, I believe, though not current. Agnes >>> means off-island and is nothing to do with a female saint -- something >>> like ek enes, but there is no surviving record of that formulation >>> >>> Off The Cove is Covean (from Cove Vean, one word English, one word >>> Cornish, Cornish syntax): small cove >>> >>> The northern cove is called Perconger, and we arrive by swerve or shore >>> and bend of bay at my title. Perconger is what the islanders have done to >>> "Porth Conger". >>> >>> Porth is landing place. Can't tell you what conger means. (I have posted >>> poems about Periglis where I like to spend my time stroking a cat. Porth >>> Eglos, landing place by the church -- of, if you translate sloppily, >>> Church Cove) >>> >>> You come in to Perconger past the rock that looks like Queen Victoria's >>> old age profile, between the sometimes islands and go to the quay on the >>> west side of the porth >>> >>> When there's a bar, and there is something of one for much of the day, it >>> is due south and you can sit and look at it on a bench on the quay, where >>> I sat writing en plein >>> >>> Geologically Scilly is related to Cornwall, mostly granite and in some >>> places littered with erratics from the big glaciers which didn't quite >>> make it that far. >>> >>> Speak of The Variscan Orogeny if you want to sound knowledgeable, a >>> geologic mountain-building event caused by Late Paleozoic continental >>> collision between Euramerica (Laurussia) and Gondwana to form the >>> supercontinent of Pangaea. Unquote. I just looked it up because I couldnt >>> remember when it was. Times blur as you get old. Laurussia was of course >>> named after me; where I lived in those days; but I missed most of >>> mountain-building because of writing. >>> >>> It's pretty poor as mountains go, these days, but there is a noticeable >>> granite spine, here and there from Devon westwards -- no distance in N >>> American or Australian terms, but it sometimes defeats First Great Western >>> Railway. >>> >>> The granite goes under the sea between Lands End and Scilly, so tough >>> do-do to all those who expect to see Merlin floating in on a leaf, and >>> forget all the stories of a hundred and forty churches and the city of >>> Lions drowned >>> >>> Almost everything I have written about, in what you have seen here -- >>> apart from the 575s a while back, which were from when I lived in Cornwall >>> -- relates to places within a mile of each other on Agnes >>> >>> Right then. That'll teach you. >>> >>> It is an ancient mariner >>> He stoppeth one of three >>> The other two go on ahead >>> He stoppeth only me >>> >>> (Frank Muir) >>> >>> I am though happy to speak of this all day and night should you consent >>> best >>> >>> L >>> >>> >>> On Sat, May 19, 2012 07:57, Chris Jones wrote: >>> >>>> I hesitate to say this, but, I am finding these very English in a good >>>> way, or perhaps a way I like. I haven't seen this coast but find myself >>>> wanting to go... is this south west coast?? Maybe, I could make it there, >>>> but not now. But I searched and found some photos. >>>> >>>> >>>> On 19/05/12 04:32, Lawrence Upton wrote: >>>> >>>> The bulky slip for the revenuer's boat, >>>>> here still, unused for its purpose now, steep, with a more salubrious >>>>> paved landing place out to the left, a boat on there, angled. >>>>> >>>>> An extensive tumble of rock, weed-blackened, >>>>> up to the height of another boat, on grass, upon a trolley, an >>>>> inflatable, and then there's overgrowth of dense bramble right to the >>>>> top >>>>> of what is visible here. >>>>> >>>>> A concrete quay, atop and round the old, >>>>> white markings for hoi polloi; and steel posts for chains to control >>>>> crowds; parcels; packets to be collected; plastic sheets and sacks of >>>>> various forms; all most tidily clean in a way suggesting work's getting >>>>> done and life is being lived with good effort. >>>>> >>>>> A slightly rippling sea through burnishing light, >>>>> scatterings of markers upon its moving shine, tethered rowing boats in >>>>> scintillation up to the shrinking tombolo. Columns >>>>> of Scilly Whites near to The Gugh coast edge, cultivated plots >>>>> outweighted by noise from others which have self-planted for years of >>>>> being untended, unstraightened, left. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> [Scilly Whites are a type of daffodil] >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- >>>>> Lawrence Upton >>>>> Visiting Fellow, Music Dept, >>>>> Goldsmiths, University of London >>>>> New Cross, London SE14 6NW >>>>> ---- >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> ----- >>> Lawrence Upton >>> Visiting Fellow, Music Dept, >>> Goldsmiths, University of London >>> New Cross, London SE14 6NW >>> ---- >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> Lawrence Upton >>> Visiting Fellow, Music Dept, >>> Goldsmiths, University of London >>> New Cross, London SE14 6NW >>> ---- >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> No virus found in this message. >>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>> Version: 2012.0.2176 / Virus Database: 2425/5008 - Release Date: 05/18/12 >>> >>> >>> >> -- >> >> HEX by Randolph Healy >> U.S. Kindle Store<http://www.amazon.com/HEX-** >> ebook/dp/B007YT27FQ/ref=sr_1_**1?s=digital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=** >> 1336913755&sr=1-1<http://www.amazon.com/HEX-ebook/dp/B007YT27FQ/ref=sr_1_1?s=digital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1336913755&sr=1-1>> >> U.K. Kindle Store<http://www.amazon.co.uk/HEX-** >> ebook/dp/B007YT27FQ/ref=sr_1_**1?s=digital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=** >> 1336913370&sr=1-1<http://www.amazon.co.uk/HEX-ebook/dp/B007YT27FQ/ref=sr_1_1?s=digital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1336913370&sr=1-1>> >> >> >> Download a free Kindle reading app for pc or mac here< >> http://www.amazon.com/gp/**feature.html/ref=sv_kinh_1?ie=** >> UTF8&docId=1000493771<http://www.amazon.com/gp/feature.html/ref=sv_kinh_1?ie=UTF8&docId=1000493771> >>> . > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.2176 / Virus Database: 2425/5009 - Release Date: 05/19/12 > > > -- HEX by Randolph Healy U.S. Kindle Store <http://www.amazon.com/HEX-ebook/dp/B007YT27FQ/ref=sr_1_1?s=digital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1336913755&sr=1-1> U.K. Kindle Store <http://www.amazon.co.uk/HEX-ebook/dp/B007YT27FQ/ref=sr_1_1?s=digital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1336913370&sr=1-1> Download a free Kindle reading app for pc or mac here <http://www.amazon.com/gp/feature.html/ref=sv_kinh_1?ie=UTF8&docId=1000493771>.