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Hello, Just to reinforce Ian's points below really. Here at UCL concerns about the lists being open were not felt to be important when our Library Committee endorsed a bid for Aspire, they felt quite the opposite = that the lists would be a great shop window on our teaching. In fact, we'd often had complaints about our previous system from lecturers who wanted to make lists available more openly. That said, we have had a few grumbles about it. Whenever they occur we listen (patiently) to the concerns, explain the benefits of the lists being open, and the licence feature. We also try to encourage heads of departments into having an stance on whether their department's lists should all be open - this is particularly useful if the objections come up at a departmental meeting. If individuals are adamant that they don't want their lists to be open to those outside UCL we have used the Access Control function. Although we have done this for only about 5 lists (I know because the requests have to come to me). Another tactic is to simply not mention the openness... a bit underhand, but if nobody asks... :-) One interesting, and slightly surprising/alarming thing I've found is that it is usually younger lecturers that have these concerns and have insisted that we 'lock down' the lists. Our favourite gripe at the moment is that having lists in Aspire means that students won't learn any information retrieval/research skills any more... if any one wants a barrage of reasons why we think that isn't the case then let me know... Cheers, June -----Original Message----- From: Talis Aspire Users [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Ian Corns (Talis) Sent: 25 May 2012 08:00 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Aspire and OER Hi, One thing to be aware of is the 'Access Control' feature on the list. This is usually configured to the SysAdmin, and allows the list to be hidden to public users (forcing the student to authenticate with an institutional login to view the list). There are limits to how many lists that can be restricted this way, but it can be a useful tool when an academic has had the benefits of openness explained to them and still do not wish to provide a list. Another factor worth mentioning is the list licence itself - less aggressive, but still providing a formal level of protection on the intellectual property of the list. This article - Preparing your arguments for academic objections to Talis Aspire (http://support.talisaspire.com/entries/20045448-prepare-your-responses-to-academic-objections-on-adopting-talis-aspire) - touches on this area under the section Open Access resistance: “My list is my intellectual property and I don’t want it to be seen by others”. Hope this is useful, Ian ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the LIS-TALIS-ASPIRE list, click the following link: http://jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=LIS-TALIS-ASPIRE&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the LIS-TALIS-ASPIRE list, click the following link: http://jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=LIS-TALIS-ASPIRE&A=1