Thanks Satra,

Your response was very informative. Do you have any sense of whether it is better to use 2.35 as opposed to rounding down to 2? Seems like the latter would introduce some error:

compare 

sigma(0.009Hz) = 1/(2*2.5*0.009) = 22.222

versus

sigma(0.009Hz) = 1/2.35*2.5*0.009) = 18.913

Thanks,
Pete

On May 22, 2012, at 4:21 PM, Satrajit Ghosh wrote:

hi peter,

it's because fsl's temporal filtering is implemented in terms of sigmas in volumes

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>" -bptf  <hp_sigma> <lp_sigma> : (-t in ip.c) Bandpass temporal filtering;
>nonlinear highpass and Gaussian linear lowpass (with sigmas in volumes, not
>seconds); set either sigma<0 to skip that filter"
----
technically this comes from

sigma in volumes = FWHM(window in seconds)/ (TR*sqrt(8*log(2)))

where,
sigma in secs = FWHM(seconds)/(sqrt(8*log(2)))
sigma in volumes = sigma in secs / TR

the denominator is a matter of conversion of fwhm to sigma and they approximate the real number sqrt(8*log(2)) ~ 2.35... with 2. 

for fslmaths:

sigma = fwhm/(2*TR)
or 
sigma = 1/(2*TR*cutoff_in_hz)

cheers,

satra


On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 3:23 PM, Peter Fried <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Hi FSL group,

I saw another post on this question, but no answer so far.

In the FEAT main Data tab, if I set the high pass filter cutoff to 100 sec (with high pass temporal filtering selected in Pre-stats),

the Pre-stats report states"
       "high pass temporal filtering (Gaussian-weighted least-squares straight line fitting, with sigma=50.0s)."

and the log states:
       fslmaths prefiltered_func_data_intnorm -bptf 20.0 -1 prefiltered_func_data_tempfilt


If I divide the cutoff (100) by the TR (2.5), I get

(100 sec / 2.5 vol/sec) = 40 vol

Why is the -bptf flag in fslmaths using a sigma of 20 instead of 40? Am I missing something or is it being divided in half?

The reason I'm asking is that I would like to substitute the high pass filter for a bandpass filter of 0.009-0.08 Hz. I have calculated the following values:

hp_sigma = (1/0.009)/2.5 = 44.44
lp_sigma = (1/0.08)/2.5 = 5

Are these the right values for fslmaths, or do they need to be divided in half?

Thanks.

Cheers,
Peter Fried

Boston University School of Medicine