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Yes.  You need to demean CNI_1 and CNI_2 (you can find very clear explanation on the website:  http://mumford.fmripower.org/mean_centering/  by Dr. Jeanette Mumford).

 

From: FSL - FMRIB's Software Library [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of R Duke
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 3:45 PM
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Subject: Re: [FSL] Randomise Contrast

 

Cheers Yingying

 

There are ~25 subjects in each group. I just used 2 as an example to save on space. Given that, it looks like I should use the first design you suggested. Is that correct? 

 


From: "Wang, Yingying" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 3:40 PM
Subject: Re: [FSL] Randomise Contrast



A question: are there two subjects in each group (G1, G2, G3)? Or one subject in each group with two scans?

For two subjects case:

G1          G2          G3          CNI_1    CNI_2

1              0              0              -0.667    -9.333

1              0              0              0.333     12.667

0              1              0              0.333     1.667

0              1              0              -0.667    -6.337

0              0              1              0.333     10.667

0              0              1              0.333     -9.333

 

For one subject case:

You’d better get the average FA map from the two scans.  Then use the following design matrix:

G1          G2          G3          CNI_1    CNI_2

1              0              0              -0.167    1.5

0              1              0              -0.167    -3

0              0              1              0.333     1.5

 

Contrast1:  1 -1 0 0 0

Contrast2:  1 0  -1 0 0

Contrast3:  0 1 -1 0 0

 

 

Yingying

 

From: FSL - FMRIB's Software Library [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of R Duke
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 3:13 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: [FSL] Randomise Contrast

 

Dear FSL Experts,

 

I have a question regarding my Randomise design matrix. I have three groups (G1, G2, G3) and two covariates of no interest (CNI). I am interested in between group FA differences and feel that I should control for my two covariates of no interest. Given this information I was wondering if the design matrix I have listed below is correct?

G1

G2

G3

CNI_1_G1

CNI_1_G2

CNI_1_G3

CNI_2_G1

CNI_2_G2

CNI_2_G3

1

0

0

1

0

0

22

0

0

1

0

0

2

0

0

44

0

0

0

1

0

0

2

0

0

33

0

0

1

0

0

1

0

0

25

0

0

0

1

0

0

2

0

0

42

0

0

1

0

0

2

0

0

22

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Contrast1: 1 -1 0 0 0 0 0 0 (give me voxels where FA for G1 > FA for G2)

Contrast2: 1 0 -1 0 0 0 0 0 0 (give me voxels where FA for G1 > FA for G3)

Contrast3: 0 1 -1 0 0 0 0 0 0 (give me voxels where FA for G2 > FA for G3)

 

I was also wondering if this design controls for within or between group variance? 

 

In other words, what happens if I put my two covariates of no interest in only 2 columns (just listing the covariate of no interest across each group in two columns - one column for CNI_1 across all groups and one column for CNI_2 across all groups)? Would this be controlling for between group differences?    

 

Cheers!