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The tub of lard strategy may be called for. Since this is an international list, I may have to explain that a famously rotund politician kept cancelling scheduled appearances as a guest on a TV news quiz show. After covering up for him a couple of times, they did an episode where his seat was occupied by a tub of lard. Richard On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 4:25 PM, Oddy, Nicholas <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > It does paint an interesting picture of the foundations and strength of > the pro-helmet lobby. **** > > ** ** > > Nicholas Oddy**** > > ** ** > > *From:* Cycling and Society Research Group discussion list [mailto: > [log in to unmask]] *On Behalf Of *burton richard > *Sent:* 22 May 2012 15:54 > *To:* [log in to unmask] > *Subject:* Re: Damian McGrath's suggestion[Scanned-Clean]**** > > ** ** > > Or in other words, our case is so weak that we dare not debate with anyone > who knows what they are talking about, and I'll be shown up as someone with > more faith than facts.**** > > On 22 May 2012 15:49, David Patton <[log in to unmask]> wrote:**** > > As it happens, "the guy" Damian suggested asking is very active in our > local bicycle advisory committee.**** > > ** ** > > I sent him (Randy Swart) the announcement; this is his reply.**** > > ** ** > > David Patton**** > > Arlington County (Virginia) Div. of Transportation > > > Sent from my iPhone**** > > > Begin forwarded message:**** > > *From:* Randy Swart <[log in to unmask]> > *Date:* May 22, 2012 9:30:01 AM EDT > *To:* David Patton <[log in to unmask]> > *Subject:* *Re: Fwd: helmet proponent sought for Velo-city***** > > At 5/22/2012, you wrote: > > **** > > Randy ... Please contact me if you're interested.**** > > > > I will not be going, and am not interested in debating helmet laws with > the ECF experts. You could spend your whole life doing that, with zero > benefit for anybody. > > Randy > > > _____________________________ > > Randy Swart > [log in to unmask] > Bicycle Helmet Safety Institute > Arlington, VA USA > 703-486-0100 > www.helmets.org > > **** > > ** ** >