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Brill has very powerful books. I dont want their books made free without their permission. I like books to be cheap but i can appreciate Taschen selling its Muhammad Ali book <http://www.taschen.com/pages/en/search/result.1.htm?show_all=catalogue&search_string=goat&submit_search=GO>for £99.99, £3, 500 and with its won scupture and fo;ding table for £9, 000. and its Helmut Newton's Sum<http://www.taschen.com/pages/en/search/result.1.htm?show_all=catalogue&search_string=helmut+newton+&submit_search=GO>o for £9, 000, with its with its own folding table, and another version for £99.99 when i am ready i will buy the 99.99 Newton at least. thanks toyin On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 1:55 AM, David Mattichak <[log in to unmask]>wrote: > With the current changes in the publishing business model most > traditional publishing houses are going to have to change their strategies > in order to survive. They may well have been in business for 300 years but > in that time they have not had to face the same sort of changes in > publishing technology and, like most publishers, they have had the upper > hand over the people that write for them. That is changing very quickly now > and the business model that they use is now having to compete in a very > different marketplace. Over priced books that are sold in bundles to > leverage sales is rapidly becoming less profitable in an on demand > publishing world. > > ------------------------------ > Date: Sun, 20 May 2012 13:15:20 -0700 > From: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: [ACADEMIC-STUDY-MAGIC] Looking for a publisher for > translation of al-Buni's Great Sun of Gnoses > To: [log in to unmask] > > > I may stand to be corrected but Brill has been in business for 300 years, > or so. They must have awesome business planning. > > On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 12:36 PM, N.W. Azal <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > Unless they become far more competitive, in 25 years or less industry > trends will force Brill to bring their prices down radically or they will > face losing any competitiveness and possibly fold. Universities know this. > For now, let them keep thinking and doing as they do. > > N > > > On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 1:46 AM, Morgan Leigh <[log in to unmask]>wrote: > > I had a big rant on the Pagan Studies list about this issue recently, so > here I will just say... > > They all 'say' they are largely unconcerned with making money, and many > deny they make money when they are raking it in. See here for info on > this and to sign the boycott of Elsevier! > > http://thecostofknowledge.com > > Regards, > > Morgan Leigh > PhD Candidate > School of Sociology and Social Work > University of Tasmania > > On 20/05/2012 2:15 AM, HUMBERTO MAGGI wrote: > > Brill's price are an insult. How that connects to they being "largely > > unconcerned with making money" is a mystery for me. > > > > HM > > > > --- Em *sáb, 21/4/12, Christopher I. Lehrich /<[log in to unmask]>/* > escreveu: > > > > > > De: Christopher I. Lehrich <[log in to unmask]> > > Assunto: Re: [ACADEMIC-STUDY-MAGIC] Looking for a publisher for > > translation of al-Buni's Great Sun of Gnoses > > Para: [log in to unmask] > > Data: Sábado, 21 de Abril de 2012, 14:53 > > > > If it's a sufficiently scholarly translation, you might try Brill. > > They publish a lot of important texts within Islamic history, and > > they're largely unconcerned with making money. > > > > Chris Lehrich > > > > On 4/20/2012 11:36 AM, N.W. Azal wrote: > >> The current Beirut printed edition of al-Buni and its reprints > >> runs over 616 pages (not including index and table of > >> contents/fihrist). The 2004 Turkish annotated translation and > >> edition was divided into two massive volumes of over 2000/3000+ > >> pages per volume. Serializing al-Buni is totally unfeasible, if > >> one were to do it properly, that is. There are four books here > >> with over 50+ chapters and numerous sub-divisions (as of the > >> printed edition, although no consensus exists on the chapter > >> divisions or its sub-divisions. All of these were added later). > >> Plus there are countless diagrams, graphs and pictures. A project > >> such as this would have to to be done much like (and even better > >> than) how Llewelyn did Agrippa's /De occulta philosophia/ -- and > >> al-Buni's /Great Sun of Gnoses /is twice, three times Agrippa's > >> size. The daunting scope of this project is what, I suspect, has > >> scared off a few publishers I have been speaking to over the years. > >> > >> N.W. Azal > >> > >> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 5:20 PM, Karen Gregory > >> <[log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>> > >> wrote: > >> > >> Hello all: > >> > >> I passed the email to a friend at CUP and their response was: > >> > >> "I've been finding that even books on Islamic science are > >> rather specialized. The British have done more in your > >> friend's area. Kegan Paul (whom we used to distribute) and > >> Brill would be worth trying. Alternatively, the translation > >> could be serialized in the journal he mentions. Or even > >> excerpts, which might generate more interest among presses. > >> > >> Hope this helps. > >> > >> Best, > >> > >> Karen > >> > >> > >> > >> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 10:51 AM, Daniel Harms > >> <[log in to unmask] > >> <[log in to unmask]>> wrote: > >> > >> I’ll add that a request for the Shams al-Maarif in English > >> is one of the top trending and most commented posts on my > >> blog, so there is substantial interest. > >> > >> > >> > >> Sincerely, > >> > >> > >> > >> Dan Harms > >> > >> Bibliographer and Instructional Services Librarian > >> > >> SUNY Cortland Memorial Library > >> P. O. Box 2000 > >> > >> Cortland, NY 13045 > >> > >> (607) 753-4042 > >> > >> > >> > >> *From:*Society for The Academic Study of Magic > >> [mailto:[log in to unmask] > >> <[log in to unmask]>] *On > >> Behalf Of *Dr Dave Evans > >> > >> > >> *Sent:* Friday, April 20, 2012 10:37 AM > >> *To:* [log in to unmask] > >> <[log in to unmask]> > >> *Subject:* Re: [ACADEMIC-STUDY-MAGIC] Looking for a > >> publisher for translation of al-Buni's Great Sun of Gnoses > >> > >> > >> > >> one of the many reasons i love this list : ) > >> > >> Dave E > >> > >> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 5:08 PM, mandrake > >> <[log in to unmask] > >> <[log in to unmask]>> wrote: > >> > >> On 20/04/2012 13:57, Lil Osborn wrote: > >> > >> many thanks for plug > >> - yes would certainly be interested personally and > >> professionally > >> mogg > >> contacted Nima off linst > >> > >> Hi Nima, Have you tried Mandrake I know Mogg is on the list. > >> > >> > >> > >> Much love > >> > >> Lil > >> > >> Sent from my iPhone so please excuse the spelling. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> On 20 Apr 2012, at 11:59, "N.W. Azal" > >> <[log in to unmask] > >> <[log in to unmask]>> wrote: > >> > >> My attempt to find a reputable publisher for my > >> translation of al-Buni's opus magnum, the /Shams > >> al-Ma'arif al-Kubra/ (The Great Sun of Gnoses), seems > >> to be going nowhere. Generally speaking, even though > >> there is now a journal dealing with occultism in the > >> Islamic world, most Anglophone publishers seem to be > >> uninterested in publishing a translation of the most > >> comprehensive Islamic hermetic text, claiming it to > >> be, in the words of one outfit, "too arcane an area to > >> prove a lucrative investment"; this, while there seems > >> to be huge demand from a market of non-Arabic readers > >> for a translation of this specific work. > >> > >> I am open to suggestions as to who to talk to if > >> anyone has any ideas or contacts. > >> > >> N.W. Azal > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Karen Gregory > >> PhD candidate > >> Department of Sociology > >> The Graduate Center > >> City University of New York > >> > >> > > > > -- > > Christopher I. Lehrich > > Assistant Professor of Religion > > Boston University > > > > -- > > > > > > -- > *K.M. (Kevin) Hataley* > * > * > Calgary, Canada > *skype: kevin.hataley* > > >