Thank you for this Cathy.
 
To be clear, I didn't mean to suggest forcing PhD students to volunteer. Rather, if there is a public engagement activity that would benefit from the expertise etc. of PhD students and you offer them the chance to get involved, should you also offer payment. Completely up to them whether they choose to get involved or not. (So I guess you answered this by way of 'voluntary volunteering')
 
Thanks again,
 
Mat


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PhD students rarely have a lot of free time, the same as employees. During a PhD, there is the pressure to teach, publish, research, organise conferences, network for the future etc etc, on a learning basis (some with relationships and families to nuture as well) all of which contribute to high stress etc, just the same as in ordinary academic jobs. Completing a PhD is more than a full time job in itself. I don't know any PhD students who are 'happy' to volunteer for unpaid extras, particularly given the low salaries that PhDs encompass. Some will do it as a necessarily evil to build the appropriate experience for an academic career. Given that teaching stipends are often low, publications and helping out conferences etc don't usually pay, there is no justification for compulsary volunteering. A small amount of er 'voluntary volunteering' where there are clear benefits to an up and coming researcher's portfolio of experience, may be tolerated, but not demanded. All work which demands a person's skills and time should ethnically be paid.

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Dear all,
 
Vaguely related to Laura Walker's question... I'm interested in people's thoughts on using PhD students to support public engagement activities and whether they should be remunerated for their time?
 
Many PhD students will be expected to undertake PE activities as part of their PhD, so might be happy to donate their time for free, but others might feel that their expertise and the responsibility being entrusted to them should be recognised.
 
So: should PhD students be paid when they help out at an event? Perhaps it is a spectrum -- some activities should be voluntary (for example...?), some should be paid (for example...?)
 
Be good to hear what you think.
 
Thanks in advance and best wishes,
 
Mat
 
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