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On 6 Apr 2012, at 20:26, Pat Lockley wrote: > Shouldn't we agree one though as JLern submitters? I'm not sure early > submitters creating a standard sounds like a good idea We're probably just as well off experimenting with the service for a while first before trying to identify potential extra standards - I don't think I'll know if the approach I'm taking now is going to work until I hook it into at least two stores and try to get them interoperating using it.. At the moment I'm using some of the examples here as a starting point: https://docs.google.com/document/d/19ZkVpxQn1O1dLhCZClkQkzvypziBI7gBytszTxgXmX0/edit?hl=en_US > > On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 7:59 PM, Scott Wilson > <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >> >> On 6 Apr 2012, at 19:36, Daniel Rehak wrote: >> >> Pat >> >> We started with the activity streams model, and then extended it -- so LR >> paradata can be mapped to AS, but it will be lossey. >> >> In LR we ask for people to submit one piece of data at a time, but the full >> paradata spec does use the packaging model from AS to bundle things. But >> none of LR uses that. >> >> LR doesn't have a standard strategy for what to submit -- e.g., each event, >> an incremental time summary/aggregate over some period (each week, each >> month), a cumulative summary "to date". We wanted the community to be able >> to do what they think is best. >> >> >> Sounds like a sensible approach. >> >> For our use in widget/app stores we'll be using individual events for user >> reviews, but for downloads and embeds we'll probably use aggregate-to-date >> stats . As we encounter other UCs we'll have to decide which is the >> appropriate model to use. >> >> - Dan >> >> On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 13:53, Pat Lockley <[log in to unmask]> >> wrote: >>> >>> After my last post I went to read the LR "Paradata in 20 seconds" >>> google doc. It seems to delineate the LR paradata from >>> activitystrea.ms by aggregating the actions together (the examples are >>> monthly). Of course we could submit something else, but I don't think >>> we have a standard schema / policy for this. >>> >>> On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 6:32 PM, Scott Wilson >>> <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >>>> On 6 Apr 2012, at 16:56, Pat Lockley wrote: >>>> >>>>> I think turning the ramanathan or Jeffrey Hill's LRPHP (see github) >>>>> into an API would be really simple, but I am unsure of what the best >>>>> publishing policy is? If it's metadata packaged up, I would guess we >>>>> should delete our metadata package before we add a new one - but that >>>>> seems open to conjecture? Also if we submit paradata, is it per act, >>>>> or per month, and do we maintain a core paradata package with all the >>>>> data in? >>>> >>>> I've been working on a Java lib for publishing and synching LR paradata, >>>> specifically ratings (reviews and downloads still to go): for ratings I've >>>> assumed one paradata record per rating on the assumption that ratings and >>>> comments go hand in hand so its worth keeping them as individual records >>>> with actor-measure-subject. However I can also see the case for doing >>>> summaries (e.g. "in our store this app has an average rating of 3.2 from a >>>> sample of 43 ratings") so will probably add some support for that too. >>>> >>>> In any case I have to filter to remove earlier updates, e.g. see: >>>> >>>> >>>> http://scottbw.wordpress.com/2012/04/05/spaws-initial-code-hands-on-with-the-learning-registry/ >>>> >>>> Code is at: >>>> >>>> https://github.com/scottbw/spaws >>>> >>>> (& in sonatype snapshots repo for all you Maven fans) >>>> >>>> Putting this lib behind a web API would be pretty easy if you wanted to. >>>> I guess the main value-added is the de-duplication and filtering. >>>> >>>> S >>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 11:02 AM, Julian Tenney >>>>> <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >>>>>> What would be really helpful for us is a leg-up with the technology >>>>>> side of >>>>>> things. What we would like to do is add some pages to our example at >>>>>> http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_560 to ask users to rate the >>>>>> resource, maybe comment on it and then push that info into the LR. >>>>>> What we >>>>>> would really like is some easy method of doing that, I’m thinking >>>>>> about some >>>>>> simple API call I can make. I have Pat’s ‘post data to the LR’ php >>>>>> code, but >>>>>> it would be much simpler for me to call a service, and I think for >>>>>> others >>>>>> too. We could also explore publishing a resource into the LR from >>>>>> toolkits, >>>>>> again an API to call would make this easy, and would facilitate >>>>>> building >>>>>> other tools by which data can be added to the node, be them widgets, >>>>>> gizmos, >>>>>> whatever, >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> From: Open Educational Resources [mailto:[log in to unmask]] >>>>>> On >>>>>> Behalf Of Sarah Currier >>>>>> Sent: 03 April 2012 10:03 >>>>>> To: [log in to unmask] >>>>>> Subject: JISC OER RI projects working with the JLeRN on Learning >>>>>> Registry >>>>>> stuff >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Hello all, >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> See below for link to (and text of) JLeRN blog post on OER Rapid >>>>>> Innovation >>>>>> projects working with JLeRN and/or the Learning Registry. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Had a brief chat with Suzanne Hardy at the end of the Programme >>>>>> Meeting last >>>>>> week about what might help these projects, and any others interested >>>>>> in >>>>>> JLeRN / The Learning Registry. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Can you please shout if (a) you have an OER RI (or any OER) project >>>>>> interested in this stuff and I haven’t mentioned you in the blog post, >>>>>> and >>>>>> (b) if you have an idea of what might be helpful for you to move on >>>>>> with >>>>>> this aspect of your project. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Suzanne and I were just thinking, maybe a kick-off virtual meeting of >>>>>> some >>>>>> kind (with CETIS input too). >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks >>>>>> >>>>>> Sarah >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> From: Sarah Currier [mailto:[log in to unmask]] >>>>>> Sent: 03 April 2012 09:55 >>>>>> To: Sarah Currier >>>>>> Subject: Fwd: Some new UK-based JISC projects working with the JLeRN >>>>>> on >>>>>> Learning Registry stuff >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>>>> From: Sarah Currier <[log in to unmask]> >>>>>> Date: 3 April 2012 09:54 >>>>>> Subject: Some new UK-based JISC projects working with the JLeRN on >>>>>> Learning >>>>>> Registry stuff >>>>>> To: [log in to unmask] >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Hello all, >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> For those who don't follow the JLeRN blog, thought you might be >>>>>> interested >>>>>> in these new JISC-funded projects (blog post >>>>>> here: >>>>>> http://jlernexperiment.wordpress.com/2012/04/03/jlern-and-the-jisc-oer-rapid-innovation-projects/ >>>>>> ). >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Text of post here: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> JLeRN and the JISC OER Rapid Innovation Strand >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The HE Academy / JISC OER3 Programme‘s new Rapid Innovation strand >>>>>> projects >>>>>> kicked off last week in London at the Programme Meeting. We are >>>>>> thrilled >>>>>> that there are four projects within the strand who want to work with >>>>>> us on >>>>>> Learning Registry related developments. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> With only four months left for JLeRN, we want to make the most of the >>>>>> time >>>>>> we have, and participating in well-thought-out projects meeting real >>>>>> requirements in the OER space seems like a good way to consolidate >>>>>> what >>>>>> we’ve learned so far. All of these projects involve folk who supported >>>>>> us by >>>>>> coming to the Hackday in January and the CETIS Conference Learning >>>>>> Registry >>>>>> session in February so it’ll be nice to give something back. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The four projects we are working with are as follows (NB: There were a >>>>>> few >>>>>> other sparks of interest in the OER Rapid Innovation projects’ >>>>>> breakout >>>>>> session, so I think we may pick up a few more along the way: don’t be >>>>>> shy to >>>>>> get in touch if you’d like to work with us): >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Rapid Innovation Dynamic Learning Maps-Learning Registry (RIDLR) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Based at Newcastle University, and led by Simon Cotterill, this >>>>>> project will >>>>>> build on their Dynamic Learning Maps work, and their FavOERites social >>>>>> bookmarking project, to develop “open APIs to harvest and release >>>>>> paradata >>>>>> on OER from end-users (bookmarks, tags, comments, ratings and reviews >>>>>> etc.) >>>>>> from the Learning Registry and other sources for specific topics, >>>>>> within the >>>>>> context of curriculum and personal maps.” >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Sharing Paradata Across Widget Stores (SPAWS) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Based at Bolton University (with partners KMi (Open University); IMC >>>>>> AG, >>>>>> Saarbruecken; Katholieke Universiteit Leuven, Belgium) and led by >>>>>> Scott >>>>>> Wilson, this project will use the Learning Registry infrastructure to >>>>>> share >>>>>> paradata in the form of user views, reviews and ratings about >>>>>> educational >>>>>> widgets across four existing widget stores. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Xerte Experience Now Improved: Targeting HTML5 (XENITH) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Based at Nottingham University (with partners JISC TechDIS, EDINA and >>>>>> Mimas >>>>>> (us!)), and led by Julian Tenney, this project builds on the Xerte >>>>>> Online >>>>>> Toolkits, which integrates directly with the Xpert Repository. As an >>>>>> adjunct >>>>>> to its main development work, it will explore sharing metadata and >>>>>> paradata >>>>>> about Xerte resources with the Learning Registry. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Track OER: Tracking Open Educational Resources >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Based at the Open University, and led by Patrick McAndrew, this >>>>>> project aims >>>>>> to “develop software that can help track open educational resources” >>>>>> as they >>>>>> are used away from their point of origin. JLeRN has already entered >>>>>> discussions with them to ensure mutual affordances are identified. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> In addition to these projects, the University of Liverpool will soon >>>>>> be >>>>>> working with the JLeRN team to set up their own node. As well as >>>>>> assisting >>>>>> with meeting Liverpool’s requirements, this will enable JLeRN to >>>>>> experiment >>>>>> with sharing data between nodes at different locations. Work with >>>>>> Jorum will >>>>>> continue, and discussions have begun with the JISC Resource Discovery >>>>>> Programme to widen the reach of the Learning Registry concept. Watch >>>>>> out for >>>>>> blog posts on all of these activities! >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers all, comments and questions welcome: the blog post has project >>>>>> links >>>>>> in it. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Sarah >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Sarah Currier | Jorum Technical Coordinator (R&D Projects) | JLeRN >>>>>> Experiment Project Lead >>>>>> >>>>>> Mimas | Roscoe Building (5th Floor) | Oxford Road | The >>>>>> University of >>>>>> Manchester | Manchester | United Kingdom | M13 9PL >>>>>> >>>>>> Tel.: +44 (0)161 275 6034 (ext. 56034) | Mob.: +44 (0)7980855801 >>>>>> >>>>>> E-mail: [log in to unmask] >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Skype & Twitter: morageyrie >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >>>>>> and >>>>>> may contain confidential information. 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