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medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture Sure. But doesn't that both touch issues of conception? Anyone come across this? Best Hiram Dr. Hiram Kümper Universität Bielefeld Geschichte des Mittelalters und der Frühen Neuzeit Universitätsstraße 25 S 4-211 D-33615 Bielefeld (+049) 0521/106-3245 http://wwwhomes.uni-bielefeld.de/hkuemper Am 22.04.2012 13:57, schrieb Christine Gray: > medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture > > The Immaculate Conception is the belief that Mary herself was conceived > without original sin. > > The virgin birth is the belief that Mary was a virgin, even though pregnant. > > Christine, a luirker > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > *From: *"Hiram Kümper" <[log in to unmask]> > *To: *[log in to unmask] > *Sent: *Sunday, April 22, 2012 4:27:25 AM > *Subject: *[M-R] medical theory and religious belief > > medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture > > Dear everyone, > > please allow me to ask for your help in a question that has been hauting > me now for several weeks: from at least the twelfth century onwards > natural philosophers and later medicins discuss the idea of a female > contribution to conception, be it in the form of sperm or some other > material. Many of these even conflicting ideas have in common that they > see the woman’s active consent (mostly in terms of “lust”) as obligatory > for conception. > Now, how does this go along with the idea of Mary’s immaculate > conception and the debate over her perpetual virginity? This question > certainly goes beyond the integrity of the hymen when theories of > conceptions are concerned, especially when it comes to the immaculate > conception. > I wonder whether there are discussions between medieval theologians > where arguments and questions of theology and medical theory meet in > this respect? I strongly suspect there must be. Still surprisingly, I > hardly found any. But that might certainly be my fault. John Bugge, for > instance, who devotes an appendix to his fine study on “Virginitas” > (1975) to Mary’s immaculate conception, does not mention anything > either. Does, by any chance, anyone of you know the one or other example > or could point me at some eminent study that I might have overlooked? > > Thanks so much for any hint! > > Yours > Hiram > > -- > Dr. Hiram Kümper > Universität Bielefeld > Geschichte des Mittelalters und der Frühen Neuzeit > Universitätsstraße 25 > S 4-211 > D-33615 Bielefeld > (+049) 0521/106-3245 > http://wwwhomes.uni-bielefeld.de/hkuemper > > ********************************************************************** > To join the list, send the message: join medieval-religion YOUR NAME > to: [log in to unmask] > To send a message to the list, address it to: > [log in to unmask] > To leave the list, send the message: leave medieval-religion > to: [log in to unmask] > In order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: > [log in to unmask] > For further information, visit our web site: > http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/medieval-religion.html > > ********************************************************************** > To join the list, send the message: join medieval-religion YOUR NAME to: > [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> To send a > message to the list, address it to: [log in to unmask] > <mailto:[log in to unmask]> To leave the list, send the > message: leave medieval-religion to: [log in to unmask] > <mailto:[log in to unmask]> In order to report problems or to > contact the list's owners, write to: > [log in to unmask] > <mailto:[log in to unmask]> For further > information, visit our web site: > http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/medieval-religion.html ********************************************************************** To join the list, send the message: join medieval-religion YOUR NAME to: [log in to unmask] To send a message to the list, address it to: [log in to unmask] To leave the list, send the message: leave medieval-religion to: [log in to unmask] In order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: [log in to unmask] For further information, visit our web site: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/medieval-religion.html