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medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture Cecilia, I'm not sure I would agree with the learned John Wickstrom on this one. The crusader clergy were intensely conscious that the Holy Sepulchre was the place of the Resurrection, witnessed by the fact that the usage that they develop there after 1099 has a commemoration of the Resurrection every day through the year, and an additional Solemn Commemoration of the Resurrection on the last Sunday of the year (i.e., the Sunday befopre Advent). Also for them the recovery of Jerusalem was an epochal event. I suspect they would have used the most solemn Resurrection office available to them, i.e., the Easter office, rather than that of the Sunday occurring. Admittedly, this is a guess, but it seems more likely to me. Is there anything that addresses your question in Cristina Dondi, *The Liturgy of the Canons Regular of the Holy Sepulchre of Jerusalem: A Study and a Catalogue of the Manuscript Sources*, Turnhout: Brepols, 2004? -- Paul On 2 April 2012 03:50, John Wickstrom <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture > > Cecilia, my guess is that the phrase simply refers to the Sunday office, > which commemorates the Resurrection (I'm pretty sure I've seen this in > 9th-11th c liturgical rubrics. It might also refer to a votive office of > the Resurrection celebrated for this victory, but I think Sunday is more > likely. > John W. > > -----Original Message----- > From: medieval-religion - Scholarly discussions of medieval religious > culture [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Higa, > Stephen > Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2012 8:07 AM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: [M-R] Office of the Resurrection - for the Liturgical Experts > > medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture > > Hello Cecilia, > > My feeling is that it isn't so much "Officium de Resurrectione" as > "officium de resurrectione." Although you are right that the more official > word was Pascha, liturgical commentators like Amalarius of Metz (admittedly > writing before Raymond) often use phrases like "the day of our Lord's > resurrection" or "between the time of Christ's passion and the time of his > resurrection" or simply "resurrection Sunday." For example, the title of > the seventh chapter of Book 1 of Amalarius's Liber Officialis is "De > varietatibus officiorum per diem, usque in resurrectione Domini" (this > chapter is largely about Lent). > It isn't so far from there to a phrase like "the office of [Christ's] > resurrection." > > I mostly know the Carolingian material, however, and perhaps something > changed by Raymond's time...Also, I do believe that there is an "Office of > the Resurrection" in Byzantine usage, but perhaps others know about this? > > Stephen > > > On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 5:57 PM, Cecilia Gaposchkin < > [log in to unmask]> wrote: > > medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and > > culture Doctissimi, > > > > I am reading Raymond of Aguiliers, who tells me that, upon capturing > > Jerusalem (on July 15), that "in hac die cantavimus officium de > > Resurrectione, quia in hac die ille qui sua virtute a mortuis > > resurrexit, per gratiam suam nos resuscitavit." > > > > I presume the "officium de Resurrectione" is the Liturgy for Easter? > > Is this the common medieval way of referring to Easter? I would have > > expected paschalis or the like, but am not familiar with this > > language. 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