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I fully appreciate the need for the heritage crime controlled vocabulary, but surely these terms (architectural theft, anti-social behaviour, assault) aren't Events in the sense that HERs would use the word? They don't tie in with the MIDAS Heritage Investigative Activity information group, ie 'an activity undertaken with the explicit intention of gathering information about... a Heritage Asset'. I realise Isobel's example of neat excavation on a scheduled barrow may have been closer to this, but I don't suppose the perpetrators left behind 'an information source to record that information and understanding'! Surely there must be another better place to record illegal or anti-social incidents - could Management Activity be expanded to include recording of damage (ie the crime) as one of the stages? Best wishes Sarah Orr Historic Environment Record Officer Archaeology Service West Berkshire Council West Street House West Street Newbury RG14 1BZ Tel 01635 519805 Fax 01635 519811 [log in to unmask] <blocked::mailto:[log in to unmask]> www.westberks.gov.uk/archaeology <http://www.westberks.gov.uk/archaeology> West Berkshire Council is committed to continuous improvement and we recognise that we can always do better. If you have any comments to make about the service you have received please let us know via our website - www.westberks.gov.uk, by e-mail - [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> , by phone - 01635 42400 or by contacting the archaeology service. ________________________________ From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of ADAMS, Paul Sent: 05 April 2012 14:56 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Recording heritage crime Dear all, The English Heritage Data Standards Unit is currently working with Mark Harrison on the creation of a controlled vocabulary relating to crime and the historic environment. It is hoped that this vocabulary will aid in creating a consistency in recording which will enable agencies and stakeholders to share the data that they currently hold relating to heritage crime. The first draft is currently nearing completion; we will keep the list informed of future developments. A concordance table between the draft thesaurus terms and terms used by the media can be found on page 40 of the report into 'The Extent of Crime and Anti-Social Behaviour facing Designated Heritage Assets' See: http://www.english-heritage.org.uk/content/imported-docs/p-t/researchpap er.pdf All the best Paul Paul Adams Data Standards Supervisor, Data Standards Unit Designation Department English Heritage The Engine House Fire Fly Avenue, Swindon. SN2 2EH t: 01793 414762 ________________________________ From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Gurney, David Sent: 05 April 2012 11:04 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Recording heritage crime We have started to use "Heritage crime" as an event without, at this stage, any further refinement (such as, for example, illegal metal-detecting, metal theft or damage to a building or monument). I'd suggest that someone gets in touch with Mark Harrison, now at EH, so that any HER developments can be in line with ARCH. Best wishes David David Gurney Historic Environment Manager (County Archaeologist) Environment, Transport and Development Norfolk County Council Tel: 01362 869280 Mob: 07810 181548 www.norfolk.gov.uk/historicenvironment www.heritage.norfolk.gov.uk <http://www.heritage.norfolk.gov.uk/> ________________________________ From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Isobel Thompson Sent: 05 April 2012 10:52 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Recording heritage crime Dear all We are feeling the need to record heritage crime, as events - does anyone do this, and if so, do you have advice? Should it come up at HER Forum/HBSMR meetings, as something needing guidelines? It's not just nighthawking - we have a scheduled barrow which recently sported a neat rectangular excavation in the top. I blame TV archaeology - everyone knows to keep a clean section these days. Isobel Dr Isobel Thompson Historic Environment Record Historic Environment Unit Hertfordshire County Council County Hall EMG CHN 108 Pegs Lane Hertford SG13 8DN tel: 01992 555245 ______________________________________________________________________ This email and any attachments to it may be confidential and are intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any views or opinions expressed may not necessarily represent those of West Berkshire Council. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you must neither take any action based upon its contents, nor copy or show it to anyone. Please contact the sender if you believe you have received this e-mail in error. 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