Language-use Suggestion: Types of information selection a. System 1 (pre-conscious) This is cognitively necessary and is can be modified to some extent by learning (expertise). b. System 2 (conscious) i. Relatively careful ii. Relatively careless iii. Intentionally Deceptive, Tendentious, Invidious, Nefarious, or whatever Jim James M. Walker, MD, FACP Chief Medical Information Officer Geisinger Health System The best way to predict the future is to invent it. - Alan Kay >>> Jordan Panayotov 04/14/12 9:22 AM >>> Dear All, May I add an important detail that is missing in the discussion about EBP/EBM/EIP/EIM/EIDM. How reliable is the Evidence? What happens with the Evidence when, for example, 193 (one hundred ninety three) papers are RETRACTED? See Retraction Watch here http://retractionwatch.wordpress.com/2012/04/10/193-papers-could-be-retracted-journal-consortium-issues-ultimatum-in-fujii-case/ Countless number of practitioners and decision-makers around the world try to adhere to Evidence-Based Practice which is based on evidence, which is based on systematic reviews, which are based on peer reviewed publications (like Fujii’s papers). According to Microsoft Academic Search http://65.54.113.26/Author/54367026/yoshitaka-fujii Fujii has been cited 5,735 times! Y. Fujii has collaborated with 512 co-authors from 1991 to 2011; Cited by 18,519 authors! What is the VALUE of such Evidence? What is the impact of such "Evidence" on EBP/EBM? All the best, Jordan ----- Original Message ----- From: Djulbegovic, Benjamin To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 3:17 AM Subject: Re: Definitions of EBM/EBP Indeed, SELECTIVE use of evidence is greater threat to the practice of medicine than not consulting evidence resources at all! bd From: Evidence based health (EBH) [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Ash Paul Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 1:13 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Definitions of EBM/EBP Dear Rakesh, Your comment 'Is it possible that most practitioners would love to understand EIP as (B) practice informed on the cumulation/totality of research but unfortunately often end up with (A) practice informed by any piece (or pieces) of evidence' is not only very interesting but also very relevant, especially for healthcare commissioners. You might find this 2009 article published in the 'Journal of Health Sceinces Education' interesting: Educational strategies to reduce diagnostic error: can you teach the stuff? http://www.isabelhealthcare.com/pdf/EducationStrategiesToReduceDiagnosticError.pdf The author Mark Graber refers to (here we go again, I'm wading into Biblical controversy once more!) The 10 Commandments To Reduce Cognitive Errors 1. Thou shalt reflect on how you think and decide. 2. Thou shalt not rely on your memory when making critical decisions. 3. Thou shalt make your working environment information-friendly by using the latest wireless technology such as the Tablet PC and PDA. 4. Thou shalt consider other possibilities even though you are sure of your first diagnosis. 5. Thou shalt know Bayesian probability and the epidemiology of the diseases in your differential diagnosis. 6. Thou shalt mentally rehearse common and serious conditions that you expect to see in your specialty. 7. Thou shalt ask yourself if you are the right person to make the final decision or a specialist after considering the patient’s values and wishes. 8. Thou shalt take time to decide and not be pressured by anyone. 9. Thou shalt create accountability procedures and follow up for decisions made. 10. Thou shalt record in a relational data base software your patient’s problems and decisions for review and improvement. Leo Leonidas MD (Pediatrics, Regards, Ash From: Rakesh Biswas To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Thursday, 12 April 2012, 15:34 Subject: Re: Definitions of EBM/EBP Thanks Neil for this great discussion. Is it possible that most practitioners would love to understand EIP as (B) practice informed on the cumulation/totality of research but unfortunately often end up with (A) practice informed by any piece (or pieces) of evidence. 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