Crisis Forum request: re: Methane Fireball from the Ocean Scares People
dear good forumers,
a humble request from one of your moderators. Though our aim is absolutely and categorically not to dampen your enthusiasm, I'm afraid very large attachments - in this case Veli's - have led to computer breakdowns for a couple of our forumers (yes, indeed, some of our good folk may not have deluxe equipment or super-fast-broad band etc etc!)
so may I very, very gently suggest before people send exciting and important large material, that they might check first whether a URL can be posted, rather attaching the item itself!
sorry and thanks rolled in one
cheers,
mark
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From: Veli Albert Kallio <[log in to unmask]>
Reply-To: Veli Albert Kallio <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2012 11:10:51 +0000
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Subject: FW: Methane Fireball from the Ocean Scares People
I enclose a video about Port-au-Haiti fireball which emerged from the ocean on the eve of the Haitian earthquake as the tensions built up on sea floor and destabilised methane clathrates.
In the Caspian Sea there were 1500 metre flames from the ocean when the water table dropped due to water engineering works that redirected the water away from the lake.
Mark Lynas The Six Degrees speaks about these methane fireballs emerging from the ground and the sea. (I have enclosed his illustrations of off-shore methane fireballs.)
In addition I am enclosing the image of potential on-shore methane venting site with University of Bologna illustration about the Lake Cheko Conical Basin (the last photo).
It has been suggested that spring floods (due to ice dam) melted permafrost leading to lake and river cascading into an underground gas field as gas rushed out it ignited in fireball.
The other contender of cause of Tunguska explosion is some projectile falling from sky but until to day there is no certainty about the exact cause of events 100 years ago.
In Native American indian history telling there were a time when fireballs were frequently emerging from the Gulf of Mexico and villages had to move out from the coastal regions.
This could be associated with the end of Ice Ages warming or alterations in sea water table during glaciations.
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Hi all,
This blog posting [1] is quite clear about the devastating impact that methane could have, except he goes overboard on the explosions!
I've replied to the blogger [2].
Cheers,
John
[1] http://rocknj.hubpages.com/hub/How-Methane-Gas-Releases-Due-To-Global-Warming-Could-Cause-Human-Extinction
[2] From: John Nissen <[log in to unmask]> To: Rock_nj Subject: Methane emergency--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
John Nissen ([log in to unmask]) has sent you this message. (email address not verified)
Have you considered the evidence of the Arctic Methane Emergency Group, AMEG, that the situation over methane in the Arctic has already become extremely dangerous as a result of dramatic warming and sea ice retreat? The only means to avoid the situation becoming much worse, putting the whole of humanity at risk, is to find measures to cool the Arctic - quickly.
See site www.ameg.me <http://www.ameg.me/>
John
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Subject: FW: Methane Fireball from the Ocean Scares People
Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2011 19:04:23 +0000
Hi Ed,
I noticed John's reply below. You might see this fireball that arose from sea just front of Port-of-Haiti in the build-up of earthquake.
People first sent it to Wikileaks as an explosion of nuclear heads carrying US submarine, others claimed it as UFO, the earthquake came only hours afterwards.
I believe that some rupture in the sediments or turbidic mudflow exposed a gaseous bubble. Most people think it was one-off odd event, i.e. Euan Nisbet and multiple shots like this unlikely.
But at least massive they can be, and one would not be happy to see his boat falling onto one. This could kill by three ways (1) suck the boat to sea bed, (2) suffocate the crew, (3) burn it.
Caspian Sea, when water was diverted for a new reservoirs in 1950's had a major blow outs in Kazakhstan in when the sea table dropped few metres. Biggest flare was 1,500 metres.
Kind regards,
Albert
Hi Anthony,
Very interesting. I asked my son, who's a tectonic plate expert, about the possibility of a seismic cause of methane release, and he thought it very unlikely! There's the conventional wisdom for you - from academia, where he is truly ensconced!
We need to keep digging. Good work, Anthony.
Cheers,
John
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Subject: RE: Methane Fireball from the Ocean Scares People
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 12:35:51 +0000
i have attached the video here
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Subject: Methane Fireball from the Ocean Scares People
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 12:14:07 +0000
http://labvirus.wordpress.com/2010/01/20/video-plasma-ball-photographed-in-night-sky-the-day-prior-to-the-haiti-quake-evidence-of-scalar-weapons-things-that-make-you-go-hmmm/
