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ah thanks for that Noah, i haven't looked at Brill website for a few months as the prices were depressing, but that's closer to the planet i live on : ) cheers Dave E On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 9:02 AM, Noah Gardiner <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Actually, Brill's been putting out somewhat cheaper paperbacks recently. > Granted, "somewhat cheaper" means in the $70-80 range, but it shows that > they're at least partially aware of the pricing issue. > > - Noah > > On 4/21/2012 11:24 PM, Dr Dave Evans wrote: > > absolutely, i am not alone in referrng to Brill's output as being among > the loveliest and most interesting books that no mortal can ever afford to > read. If you have a university library with funds (discuss....) or can snag > a review copy then that's about your only chance to see their output. The > notion of a Brill trade paperback may well be anathema to them > > Dave E > > > > On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 6:15 AM, Robert Parsons <[log in to unmask]>wrote: > >> I've never thought of Brill in those terms but you may very well be >> right. Clearly, for the most part, they've priced a good many of their >> books so high that institutions and libraries seem to be their primary >> market. If they produced affordable trade editions they may actually be >> able to turn a profit. >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* Christopher I. Lehrich <[log in to unmask]> >> *To:* [log in to unmask] >> *Sent:* Sat, April 21, 2012 1:53:18 PM >> *Subject:* Re: [ACADEMIC-STUDY-MAGIC] Looking for a publisher for >> translation of al-Buni's Great Sun of Gnoses >> >> If it's a sufficiently scholarly translation, you might try Brill. They >> publish a lot of important texts within Islamic history, and they're >> largely unconcerned with making money. >> >> Chris Lehrich >> >> On 4/20/2012 11:36 AM, N.W. Azal wrote: >> >> The current Beirut printed edition of al-Buni and its reprints runs over >> 616 pages (not including index and table of contents/fihrist). The 2004 >> Turkish annotated translation and edition was divided into two massive >> volumes of over 2000/3000+ pages per volume. Serializing al-Buni is totally >> unfeasible, if one were to do it properly, that is. There are four books >> here with over 50+ chapters and numerous sub-divisions (as of the printed >> edition, although no consensus exists on the chapter divisions or its >> sub-divisions. All of these were added later). Plus there are countless >> diagrams, graphs and pictures. A project such as this would have to to be >> done much like (and even better than) how Llewelyn did Agrippa's *De >> occulta philosophia* -- and al-Buni's *Great Sun of Gnoses *is twice, >> three times Agrippa's size. The daunting scope of this project is what, I >> suspect, has scared off a few publishers I have been speaking to over the >> years. >> >> N.W. Azal >> >> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 5:20 PM, Karen Gregory <[log in to unmask]>wrote: >> >>> Hello all: >>> >>> I passed the email to a friend at CUP and their response was: >>> >>> "I've been finding that even books on Islamic science are rather >>> specialized. The British have done more in your friend's area. Kegan Paul >>> (whom we used to distribute) and Brill would be worth trying. >>> Alternatively, the translation could be serialized in the journal he >>> mentions. Or even excerpts, which might generate more interest among >>> presses. >>> >>> Hope this helps. >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> Karen >>> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 10:51 AM, Daniel Harms < >>> [log in to unmask]> wrote: >>> >>>> I’ll add that a request for the Shams al-Maarif in English is one of >>>> the top trending and most commented posts on my blog, so there is >>>> substantial interest. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Sincerely, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Dan Harms >>>> >>>> Bibliographer and Instructional Services Librarian >>>> >>>> SUNY Cortland Memorial Library >>>> P. O. Box 2000 >>>> >>>> Cortland, NY 13045 >>>> >>>> (607) 753-4042 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* Society for The Academic Study of Magic [mailto: >>>> [log in to unmask]] *On Behalf Of *Dr Dave Evans >>>> >>>> *Sent:* Friday, April 20, 2012 10:37 AM >>>> *To:* [log in to unmask] >>>> *Subject:* Re: [ACADEMIC-STUDY-MAGIC] Looking for a publisher for >>>> translation of al-Buni's Great Sun of Gnoses >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> one of the many reasons i love this list : ) >>>> >>>> Dave E >>>> >>>> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 5:08 PM, mandrake <[log in to unmask]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> On 20/04/2012 13:57, Lil Osborn wrote: >>>> >>>> many thanks for plug >>>> - yes would certainly be interested personally and professionally >>>> mogg >>>> contacted Nima off linst >>>> >>>> Hi Nima, Have you tried Mandrake I know Mogg is on the list. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Much love >>>> >>>> Lil >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone so please excuse the spelling. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 20 Apr 2012, at 11:59, "N.W. Azal" <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >>>> >>>> My attempt to find a reputable publisher for my translation of >>>> al-Buni's opus magnum, the *Shams al-Ma'arif al-Kubra* (The Great Sun >>>> of Gnoses), seems to be going nowhere. Generally speaking, even though >>>> there is now a journal dealing with occultism in the Islamic world, most >>>> Anglophone publishers seem to be uninterested in publishing a translation >>>> of the most comprehensive Islamic hermetic text, claiming it to be, in the >>>> words of one outfit, "too arcane an area to prove a lucrative investment"; >>>> this, while there seems to be huge demand from a market of non-Arabic >>>> readers for a translation of this specific work. >>>> >>>> I am open to suggestions as to who to talk to if anyone has any ideas >>>> or contacts. >>>> >>>> N.W. Azal >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Karen Gregory >>> PhD candidate >>> Department of Sociology >>> The Graduate Center >>> City University of New York >>> >> >> >> -- >> Christopher I. Lehrich >> Assistant Professor of Religion >> Boston University >> >> > > -- > Noah Gardiner > Doctoral candidate, Dept. of Near Eastern Studies > University of Michigan, Ann Arbor > >