Please stop responding to quack
posts!
Responding to quack posts is simply an encouragement
for them to keep posting. Every time you tell them to go away you are
simply providing ammunition for their feeling of being persecuted by the
scientific community. The best recourse is to simply delete these posts
without responding, You do the tectonics board a disservice by provoking further
responses.
In the case of Karan's posts, it is fairly obvious from
his own posts that he has not taken the time to become educated on the various
theories and lines of evidence surrounding the origin of petroleum. The most
obvious example is the mere fact that he has chosen a tectonics forum to raise
his objections. I have privately provided him with links to more
appropriate sites for such a discussion - giving him the benefit
of the doubt that he may have something worth saying to an appropriate
audience - but he has chosen to persist in posting
here.
Unlike many readers of this forum I also have an
interest in the origins of petroleum. I asked him in private to provide me with
a sample of what new evidence or new theories he has to present. His response
was a claim that I would likely not accept his ideas, citing that
it is evidence that God has presented to him, and pointing to a Bible
Review web site where I can go to see his posts. He admits that he is not well
studied in the scientific debate, being merely a middle aged businessman, but is
convinced he has discovered the "truth". It is clear he has no interest in
testing his "truth" against the existing data that has been amassed over
the last few decades in the biogenic-abiogenic scientific
debate.
I think most readers of this forum are capable
of recognizing this argument for what it is - a matter of faith, not
science - and simply let it go as the occasional cost of maintaining an open
forum. Unless we invoke a forum leader to screen posts (which I would not
advocate, for reasons of scientific openness) we will need to accept that quacks
will occasionally stumble on this forum and rant until they get bored and go
elsewhere. Responding to such posts as if they were legitimate scientific
inquiries merely prolongs the annoyance by provoking further reponses. Let's all
stop and he will eventually get tired of ranting and go away. If reading such
posts gets you riled up enough that you might respond, then simply delete them
without reading them.
I do not advocate stifling dissenting voices in
scientific debate. If Karan has legitimate scientific aims, he will find a
more appropriate forum. If not, the less we respond to his rantings, the sooner
he will get bored and leave this forum to find another audience who will give
him the attention he so desperately seeks.
Scot
hi Karan
i'm sorry to say this but you are really being quite boring with this
deep origin stuff ...this email is a repeat of something you have said before
.....
and i will be deleting anything further you write without opening it
Jann Beresford
Senior Geologist/Geotechnical
Geologist
Project Leader
GeoQuest
Zambia
+260971696101
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From: karan bansal <
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Sent: Sat, 3 Mar 2012
10:31
Subject: Plate Tectonic and Earth formation
Dear members,
Hydrocarbon formation can give us very important information about
forces responsible for the motion of plates and earth formation
also.so we should observe it minutely .
there are sufficient evidence by the Russians that petroleum
has deep origin but unfortunately they have manipulated it with abiogenic
origin . they have ignored the strong evidence of its biogenic origin . while we
have strong chemical evidence of its link with living organism(we have observe
spores,porphyrins......etc ) and can not be ignored.
2. we are getting oil near the sediments.
there is no need to manipulate it with abiogenic origin
while we have of its deep origin also and they have been ignored by
the scientific community.instead of manipulating it with
abiogenic origin while deep origin also they have to observe the basic
reason that why it has biogenic origin while having it has deep
origin also.
this can be both and can give us a very very important
information about the earth formation and at the end forces responsible for
the motion of plates.
regs
KARAN