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Esther (playing devil's advocate) I must in league with the devil then! We use locally controlled subject authorities which is maintained with the relevant subject librarians and also by examining search terms used in the catalogue. In specific subject areas this can be very useful in aligning resources with users view of the world, areas such as nursing where there are professional structures/jargon constantly changing particularly benefit from this (I think we’ve changed the terminology for district nurses 3 times!), or fast moving subjects such as computing/creative industries. So not quite tagging, but a vote for paying attention to our users language and search/retrieval strategies. Incidentally, I believe a very popular Reading List software also uses tagging – are cataloguers involved in monitoring that? Lynn From: CIG E-Forum [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Esther Arens Sent: 29 March 2012 11:35 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [CIG-E-FORUM] Fwd: Re: [CIG-E-FORUM] Day 1 summary of discussions Obviously, I'm all for controlled vocabularies but it could be argued that with enough critical mass the most common, widely used terms will persist. Quite like the not professionally controlled way (at least not in the traditional sense) Wikipedia keeps it standards. And we professionals might learn how our users would like to call things... Esther (playing devil's advocate) -------- Original-Nachricht -------- Datum: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 11:03:54 +0100 Von: Karen Pierce <[log in to unmask]> An: [log in to unmask] Betreff: Re: [CIG-E-FORUM] Fwd: Re: [CIG-E-FORUM] Day 1 summary of discussions I'm beginning to think we should put our department cataloguing manual into a wiki - its currently just in word format and needs overhauling anyway. It would be good to be able to add all those extra bits that come up throughout the year into one place. Re social tagging in catalogues - we are just implementing Primo (NOT my favourite thing, but never mind), I think there is a facility in it to allow users to tag books etc. I must admit I have my concerns about what kinds of tags will be used, lack of consistency, etc. Our records already have subject headings on them using controlled vocabularies, do they really need random tags? Or am I just being an old-fashioned fuddy duddy? Do students want to embrace their own tags and ignore our headings? Karen Dr Karen F. Pierce Cataloguing Librarian Cardiff University Information Services 1st Floor, McKenzie House 30-36 Newport Road Cardiff CF24 0DE http://darksideofthecatalogue.wordpress.com/ http://scolarcardiff.wordpress.com/ From: Esther Arens <[log in to unmask]><https://service.gmx.net/de/cgi/g.fcgi/mail/new?CUSTOMERNO=18127775&t=de1402534050.1333008151.72c0ba61&to=%26lt%3Besther.arens%40gmx.de> To: [log in to unmask]<https://service.gmx.net/de/cgi/g.fcgi/mail/new?CUSTOMERNO=18127775&t=de1402534050.1333008151.72c0ba61&to=CIG-E-FORUM%40jiscmail.ac.uk> Date: 29/03/2012 10:57 Subject: Re: [CIG-E-FORUM] Fwd: Re: [CIG-E-FORUM] Day 1 summary of discussions Sent by: CIG E-Forum <[log in to unmask]><https://service.gmx.net/de/cgi/g.fcgi/mail/new?CUSTOMERNO=18127775&t=de1402534050.1333008151.72c0ba61&to=%26lt%3BCIG-E-FORUM%40jiscmail.ac.uk> ________________________________ Yes, I was wondering if a small team would really need a wiki but with so much detailed knowledge that none of us learned in library school (or somewhere else) and that isn't in some edition (print or web) of AACR, Dewey etc. I expect to find it useful - esp. for that things that only come round once a year. On the topic of social tagging in catalogues: apart from the need for critical mass there's also the question whether to moderate these things or maybe a weighted way of ratings e.g. give staff or lecturers or leaders/members of a reading group more weights. After all we're information curators not just aggregators. Esther -------- Original-Nachricht -------- Datum: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 11:49:38 +0200 Von: Esther Arens <[log in to unmask]><https://service.gmx.net/de/cgi/g.fcgi/mail/new?CUSTOMERNO=18127775&t=de1402534050.1333008151.72c0ba61&to=%26lt%3Besther.arens%40gmx.de> An: [log in to unmask]<https://service.gmx.net/de/cgi/g.fcgi/mail/new?CUSTOMERNO=18127775&t=de1402534050.1333008151.72c0ba61&to=CIG-E-FORUM%40jiscmail.ac.uk> Betreff: [CIG-E-FORUM] Fwd: Re: [CIG-E-FORUM] Day 1 summary of discussions -------- Original-Nachricht -------- Datum: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 10:41:21 +0100 Von: Tabitha Driver <[log in to unmask]><https://service.gmx.net/de/cgi/g.fcgi/mail/new?CUSTOMERNO=18127775&t=de1402534050.1333008151.72c0ba61&to=%26lt%3Btabithad%40quaker.org.uk> An: Esther Arens <[log in to unmask]><https://service.gmx.net/de/cgi/g.fcgi/mail/new?CUSTOMERNO=18127775&t=de1402534050.1333008151.72c0ba61&to=%26lt%3Besther.arens%40gmx.de> Betreff: Re: [CIG-E-FORUM] Day 1 summary of discussions Good morning from someone else who silently enjoyed yesterday's discussion and helpful summary. Benefits of a wiki format for manuals etc seem great. We don't use them at my library, because of the small number of staff, but for a larger organisation, the collaborative character of a wiki, combined with version control would be ideal. You'd still need editorial control though - which is what concerns me about social tagging in smallish catalogues (not much abt that yesterday?). Tabitha Driver ________________________________ Quakers say: Each person is unique, precious, a child of God. -- NEU: FreePhone 3-fach-Flat mit kostenlosem Smartphone! 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