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You are using a different contrast. You are testing if group1 is different
from group2, this is different than testing whether the groups are
different.

If you use the F-contrast (3 rows - not three separate contrasts):
1 -1 0 0
0 1 -1 0
0 0 1 -1

You will get the correct degrees of freedom.

If you enter each of them separately, then your df will be 1,94 as the test
is between 2 groups, not 4 groups.


Best Regards, Donald McLaren
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On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 11:37 AM, Maria Serra <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Dear Donald,
>
> thank you for your answer. However, although I use the contrasts which you
> suggest me, degree(s) of freedom continue being the same (namely 1,94). I
> attach an image in order to show it to you.
>
> In the other hand, If you include a 0 in the contrast, I understand that
> the effect of the group in that position is annulled, isn't it?
>
>
> thank you in advance,
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 4:58 PM, MCLAREN, Donald <[log in to unmask]
> > wrote:
>
>> For 4 groups, the ANOVA test for the main effect of group is:
>> 1 -1 0 0
>> 0 1 -1 0
>> 0 0 1 -1
>>
>> Using this will give you the df: 3,94.
>>
>> Best Regards, Donald McLaren
>> =================
>> D.G. McLaren, Ph.D.
>> Postdoctoral Research Fellow, GRECC, Bedford VA
>> Research Fellow, Department of Neurology, Massachusetts General Hospital
>> and
>> Harvard Medical School
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>> On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 9:04 AM, Maria Serra <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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>>> Dear SPMers,
>>>
>>> I have a statistic doubt regarding degrees of freedom showed in an ANOVA
>>> analyses performed by SPM (VBM). Why the degree(s) of freedom are 1, 94
>>> instead of 3, 94, If I have 4 groups to compare?
>>>
>>> Thank you in advance,
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