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Peter Kindermans assault on dsm5 today has been picked up by the press all round the world. We need the Society to take a stand but we should also just get on with it and not be inhibited by learned fence sitting. Richard Sent from my iPhone On 10 Feb 2012, at 18:26, "Jacqueline Akhurst (J.Akhurst)" <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Dear all, > I have been assured by the BPS that the president has been working on a statement and response, and I believe a press release is due very shortly. > All the best, > Jacqui > > Sent from my iPad > > On 10 Feb 2012, at 11:16, "Jan Bostock" <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > >> Thank you for raising this Annie it is good to get some thinking and activity going among us. As psychologists we should be commenting and raising concerns about the Health and Social Care Bill and also the Welfare Reform Bill which marginalises and further impoverishes people who have least power. This will have horrible psychological and social consequences and is already dividing people and setting them against each other. >> I would like to be part of anything we write as list participants or as part of the Section (probably more useful than shouting at the radio!) The 38 degrees campaign has been well organised and effectively remonstrated. >> Jan >> >> From Jan Bostock >> >> >> On 10 Feb 2012, at 10:30, Annie Mitchell <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >> >>> I agree with Richard here - we can - and I think should - individually and collectively engage with the president about this and raise our collective game...write to The Psychologist, etc etc, build a debate .... >>> >>> Psychology as a set of academic disciplines and applied practices has a big social impact, - at the moment the impact is largely supporting the rhetoric about individual responisbility ( there was a good piece in the Guardian this week about how rhetoric about indvidual responsibility in pop psychology is driving the victim blaming and pathologising positions around unemploment (...if I havenlt got a job, it must be my fault).. We need to be challenging that, and contributing to more socially and critically aware conversations in the media, wherever we can... Challenging the Health and Social Care bill is one way of doing that. Interesting in that regard that the only defeat the coalition have had in the Lords so far about the Bill is around mental health earlier this week >>> >>> Annie >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> From: The UK Community Psychology Discussion List [[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Richard Pemberton [[log in to unmask]] >>> Sent: 10 February 2012 06:10 >>> To: [log in to unmask] >>> Subject: Re: [COMMUNITYPSYCHUK] Health and Social Care Bill : BPS position? >>> >>> The lack of political and social voices in British Psychology and our Society is indeed shocking. It is however something of a psychological sport to dis the BPS. I bet the President hasn't had much traffic about all this. The current grim situation is surely an opportunity to politicise us and raise our Societies game? >>> Richard >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On 9 Feb 2012, at 22:14, "David J.D. Ward" <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote: >>> >>> Dear all, >>> >>> The following websites may be of interest. Also I think the BPS and the DCP are looking apatheitc in not issueing any statement on the bill; especially considering their new found freedoms in not being the regulator anymore. >>> >>> http://unite.newsweaver.co.uk/1uz7179xdaqevkkdkl46at?email=true&a=1&p=21091935&t=17679984 >>> >>> http://www.keepournhspublic.com/index.php >>> >>> http://saveournhs.org/ >>> >>> http://www.38degrees.org.uk/page/s/Protect_our_NHS_Petition >>> >>> http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/22670 >>> >>> http://www.unitetheunion.org/sectors/health_sector/oacs/applied_psychologists.aspx >>> >>> David Ward >>> Clinical Psychologist >>> Unite the Union Clinical Psychology East Midlands Rep >>> >>> >>>> Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 21:59:36 +0000 >>>> From: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> >>>> Subject: Re: Health and Social Care Bill : BPS position? >>>> To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> >>>> >>>> yes;we are our society less socially progressive , for the most part, than other health professional groups, it seems to me. This contiues to come as a surprise and a disappointment, despite my years of experience >>>> This is why working with community members is so refreshing and encouraging. Our South West Keep Our NHS Public Group is dynamically powered by members of a local patient participation group. . . I wonder what the BPS / Division of Clinical Psychology User Group ( I dont know its proper title has to say about the Bill.? >>>> >>>> Does anyone know? >>>> >>>> Annie - >>>> >>>> ________________________________________ >>>> From: The UK Community Psychology Discussion List [[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>] On Behalf Of Richard Pemberton [[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>] >>>> Sent: 09 February 2012 19:20 >>>> To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> >>>> Subject: Re: [COMMUNITYPSYCHUK] Health and Social Care Bill : BPS position? >>>> >>>> We are our Society ? >>>> >>>> Richard >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On 9 Feb 2012, at 13:00, [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Thank you Jacqui and Annie. Our Society is shockingly absent at the >>>>> moment. >>>>> >>>>> Louise >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: Annie Mitchell [mailto:[log in to unmask]] >>>>> Sent: 09 February 2012 10:29 >>>>> To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> >>>>> Subject: Re: [COMMUNITYPSYCHUK] Health and Social Care Bill : BPS >>>>> position? >>>>> >>>>> Excellent; thanks so much for taking this forward, Jacqui, and look >>>>> forward to hearing the president's response. Can the Section make an >>>>> independent statement or are we bound by complex Society restrictions? >>>>> >>>>> Meantime: - is anyone able to co-ordinate a UK community psychology >>>>> discussion list press statement/ letter to the press? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Annie >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: The UK Community Psychology Discussion List >>>>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Jacqueline Akhurst >>>>> (J.Akhurst) >>>>> Sent: 09 February 2012 09:51 >>>>> To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> >>>>> Subject: Re: [COMMUNITYPSYCHUK] Health and Social Care Bill : BPS >>>>> position? >>>>> >>>>> Dear Annie and list members, >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for raising this on the list, since it resonates with a recent >>>>> discussion at our BPS Community Psychology Section committee meeting. We >>>>> share your concerns about the impact of the proposed Bill. Since our >>>>> Section represents around 220 BPS members, we are interested in whether >>>>> the Society would be making a statement, given that the full membership >>>>> is around 49 000. >>>>> >>>>> I have emailed the BPS president to enquire about the position of the >>>>> Society, and will email again once I have a response. >>>>> >>>>> All the best, >>>>> Jacqui >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: The UK Community Psychology Discussion List >>>>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Annie Mitchell >>>>> Sent: 08 February 2012 23:19 >>>>> To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> >>>>> Subject: Re: [COMMUNITYPSYCHUK] Health and Social Care Bill : BPS >>>>> position? >>>>> >>>>> dear all... sorry I got my email lists mixed up = glad this has gone to >>>>> the full UK discussion list - so it should have read dear fellow >>>>> community psycholgists....but equally I would be keen for British >>>>> Psychological Society community section members to respond too - I know >>>>> these are overlapping but separate groups....and am aware that there is >>>>> so much to challenge re UK current politics - the Welfare Bill is >>>>> another awful bit of legislation too....and so little time and energy to >>>>> focus our efforts.... >>>>> >>>>> Annie >>>>> >>>>> ________________________________ >>>>> From: Annie Mitchell >>>>> Sent: 08 February 2012 23:17 >>>>> To: The UK Community Psychology Discussion List >>>>> Subject: FW: Health and Social Care Bill : BPS position? >>>>> >>>>> Dear fellow members of the community psychology section, >>>>> >>>>> I wonder whether others share concerns about the Health and Social >>>>> Care bill - and about the lack of BPS voice on this? >>>>> >>>>> See letter below which I have sent to the BPS president. >>>>> >>>>> Do others have any thoughts about whether there is anything else we as >>>>> a section might want or be able to do - at this late stage...? Or is >>>>> anyone enaged in any action which others might help with? >>>>> >>>>> Good wishes, >>>>> >>>>> Annie Mitchell >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ________________________________ >>>>> From: Annie Mitchell >>>>> Sent: 08 February 2012 23:08 >>>>> To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> >>>>> Subject: Health and Social Care Bill : BPS position? >>>>> >>>>> Dear Dr Allen >>>>> >>>>> I attach a press release which was sent out to south west press today, >>>>> after a meeting of our local branch of Keep our NHS PUblic (South West). >>>>> Many of the members of this branch ( psychologists, medics, patients, >>>>> carers and academics) were co-signatories of a letter I recently wrote >>>>> to The Psychologist which we hope will be published, asking that the BPS >>>>> survey its members and, if it turns out that the majority are opposed >>>>> to the Bill, that we join with other professional bodies in speaking out >>>>> about it. I am very disapponted that as my professional body the BPS >>>>> appears not ,so far, to have taken up the issue. I hope that even now >>>>> at this late hour, when at last there is some flicker of hope that it >>>>> may be defeated, that we add our voices to those of others who care >>>>> about people's wellbeing and see that this Bill is not the way to >>>>> promote it. >>>>> >>>>> Please can you let me know the BPS position on the BIll? >>>>> >>>>> Yours, >>>>> >>>>> Annie Mitchell AFBPS >>>>> >>>>> ___________________________________ >>>>> There is a twitter feed: http://twitter.com/CommPsychUK (to post contact >>>>> Grant [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> To unsubscribe or to change your details >>>>> on this COMMUNITYPSYCHUK list, visit the website: >>>>> http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?A0=COMMUNITYPSYCHUK >>>>> >>>>> ___________________________________ >>>>> There is a twitter feed: http://twitter.com/CommPsychUK (to post contact >>>>> Grant [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> To unsubscribe or to change your details >>>>> on this COMMUNITYPSYCHUK list, visit the website: >>>>> http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?A0=COMMUNITYPSYCHUK >>>>> >>>>> ___________________________________ >>>>> There is a twitter feed: http://twitter.com/CommPsychUK (to post contact >>>>> Grant [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> To unsubscribe or to change your details >>>>> on this COMMUNITYPSYCHUK list, visit the website: >>>>> http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?A0=COMMUNITYPSYCHUK >>>>> >>>>> ___________________________________ >>>>> There is a twitter feed: http://twitter.com/CommPsychUK (to post contact Grant [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> >>>>> To unsubscribe or to change your details on this COMMUNITYPSYCHUK list, visit the website: >>>>> http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?A0=COMMUNITYPSYCHUK >>>> >>>> ___________________________________ >>>> There is a twitter feed: http://twitter.com/CommPsychUK (to post contact Grant [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> >>>> To unsubscribe or to change your details on this COMMUNITYPSYCHUK list, visit the website: >>>> http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?A0=COMMUNITYPSYCHUK >>>> ___________________________________ >>>> There is a twitter feed: http://twitter.com/CommPsychUK (to post contact Grant [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> >>>> To unsubscribe or to change your details on this COMMUNITYPSYCHUK list, visit the website: >>>> http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?A0=COMMUNITYPSYCHUK >>> ___________________________________ There is a twitter feed: http://twitter.com/CommPsychUK (to post contact Grant [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> To unsubscribe or to change your details on this COMMUNITYPSYCHUK list, visit the website: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?A0=COMMUNITYPSYCHUK >>> ___________________________________ There is a twitter feed: http://twitter.com/CommPsychUK (to post contact Grant [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> To unsubscribe or to change your details on this COMMUNITYPSYCHUK list, visit the website: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?A0=COMMUNITYPSYCHUK >>> >>> ___________________________________ >>> There is a twitter feed: http://twitter.com/CommPsychUK (to post contact Grant [log in to unmask] >>> To unsubscribe or to change your details on this COMMUNITYPSYCHUK list, visit the website: >>> http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?A0=COMMUNITYPSYCHUK >> >> ___________________________________ >> There is a twitter feed: http://twitter.com/CommPsychUK (to post contact Grant [log in to unmask] >> To unsubscribe or to change your details on this COMMUNITYPSYCHUK list, visit the website: >> http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?A0=COMMUNITYPSYCHUK > > ___________________________________ > There is a twitter feed: http://twitter.com/CommPsychUK (to post contact Grant [log in to unmask] > To unsubscribe or to change your details on this COMMUNITYPSYCHUK list, visit the website: > http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?A0=COMMUNITYPSYCHUK ___________________________________ There is a twitter feed: http://twitter.com/CommPsychUK (to post contact Grant [log in to unmask] To unsubscribe or to change your details on this COMMUNITYPSYCHUK list, visit the website: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?A0=COMMUNITYPSYCHUK