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Anthony, I'm not sure I can agree with you completely on this text on several scores. On cost, the Llewellyn edition is only $60 US, somewhere around 30 quid or thereabouts. I'd say that's pretty fair. This edition is a totally revamped and re-typset version of approximately 350,000 words. Just that alone must have been a monumental task. I haven't had much time to go through it yet but I did peruse the Enochian Calls and that's where Skinner did some painstaking work on corrections and pointing out problems in Casaubon's text comparing it with the ms. What a wonderful tool that part is in and of itself. And after reading through a few other sections there were additional notes as to Dee's resources, references, etc., all quite valuable. And when you mention: " I would be more impressed were there some commentary added on material similar to other grimoires similar to Joseph Peterson's treatment of Sibley and Hockley's Key to the Magic of Solomon," I'm not really sure I get it. I mean, we're looking at close to 700 pages of corrected text with notes, a decent index, etc.. What you are suggesting, if I'm understanding you correctly and I may not, is the need for a 2nd or 3rd volume or a separate work altogether dealing with a critical comparison between the T&FR and some other grimoires. All I can say, from my narrow perspective, of having conducted research into Dee's angelic seances for many years now is that this version is quite a useful implement. In fact, I could have used it years ago when I started on this all and had the University of Colorado acquire the various microfilm versions of the original, and other Dee ms. My eyes, especially would have appreciated it. Working form the 1974 facsimile edition was quite a pain from many perspectives. On the whole I would say this edition is a rare contribution in and of itself to Dee scholarship. Bob Podgurski ________________________________ From: Anthony H. <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Tue, February 21, 2012 6:53:50 PM Subject: Re: [ACADEMIC-STUDY-MAGIC] New Edition of Dee's Diaries It appears there are footnotes and comparisons made using a comparison of Casaubon's, Ashmole's, and Shippen's notes. I would be more impressed were there some commentary added on material similar to other grimoires similar to Joseph Peterson's treatment of Sibley and Hockley's Key to the Magic of Solomon, but such scholarship and care is really rare in dealings with these books, and more folks are interested in turning a profit on esoteric books at exorbitant prices. £59.00? That's a bit much for the work Skinner advertises on the label. I'll be passing on this one. Anthony H. On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 8:41 AM, Robert Parsons <[log in to unmask]> wrote: Hey folks, > >Off the current subject but I was wondering if anyone has gone through Stephen >Skinner's new edition of the True and Faithful Relation with additional notes, >etc.. Was wondering if he had added enough to warrant purchasing the new >edition. > >Thanks. > >Bob > -- "Magic is the highest most absolute and divine knowledge of natural philosophy advanced in its works and wonderful operations by a right understanding of the inward and occult vertue of things, so that true agents being applied to proper patients, strange and admirable effects will thereby be produced; whence magicians are profound and diligent searchers into nature, they because of their skill know how to anticipate an effect which to the vulgar shall seem a miracle." - Lemegeton Clavicula Salomonis, Preface from Harl. 6483