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Andrew, Sure is a terrible anth, to add to a few poor ones of recent times. But this one problematic on large scale, re what kind of work not included, ie not just the many of us individually not there but what kind of many/s. Maybe you have caught up with Pete Minter's take on it, the specific concern being Indigenous inclusion, here is his talk - worth a look/listen, it isn't boring: http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/17612651 or Michael Farrell's comments at Jacket2: https://jacket2.org/commentary/material-criticism I also wrote a short piece on it but it has not been published yet by the blogger who asked me for something. If it doesn't appear, I will post it myself. I could speculate on the 'politics' - some of it is clearly 'personal' - but I'm not sure it's worth wasting time on. Cheers, J ________________________ Jill Jones www.jilljones.com.au ----- Original Message ----- From: "Poetryetc: poetry and poetics" To: Cc: Sent:Thu, 12 Jan 2012 11:52:01 +0800 Subject:Re: snap: two seniors Yes, that was a major omission - terrible anthology. Tom is such a major figure in Australian poetry that is simply shows their ignorance. Who knows why - the politics is always behind closed doors, and from here in the West we don't get to hear all the gossip - luckily. Andrew On 12 January 2012 03:23, Max Richards wrote: > > I never met him, but Judith, yeah, & youve caught her.... > > > > Doug > > When Andrew also asked after Tom Shapcott, who is even older than his wife > Judith, I realised I was under- informed. Such a stalwart of Australian > writing, and a few years ago deprived of his voice and more by I think a > stroke. Caring for Tom was only part of her responsibilities as she (when > last met up with) also had a centenarian mother to see every day, and also > stay with as she was still in her old flat then. > Dimitris was sad for Tom who doesn't appear in the latest huge anthology > of Australian poetry despite his many books and old reputation. Ach, > anthologies! > > Max > > On 11/01/2012, at 7:23 PM, Patrick McManus wrote: > > > Thanks Max Wish I was a ball of energy -ah my old Vespa days P > > > > > > Good to see they're still kicking! Judith was always a ball of energy. > > How's Tom now? > > > > Andrew > > > > On 11 January 2012 06:37, Max Richards wrote: > > > >> Two Seniors > >> > >> (Judith Rodriguez, b1936, & > >> Dimitris Tsaloumas, b.1921) > >> > >> > >> Vigorous poems she wrote - > >> ditto her body language. > >> She roused her students - > >> > >> all can be creative! > >> New then to her country, > >> I felt she stood for Australia.. > >> > >> When our summer December > >> party lagged without > >> a bottle-opener > >> > >> she bit off the crown caps > >> passing round the beer > >> that might inspire us further. > >> > >> * > >> > >> At her house when I met > >> Australia's great Greek poet, > >> Dimitris Tsaloumas, > >> > >> of Leros and Elwood Vic, > >> though I towered over him, > >> his eyes burned into me > >> > >> as if asking was I serious enough? > >> I hadn't been but might. > >> His voice was intense, but kind. > >> > >> * > >> > >> Hospitalised once > >> for something dire, > >> when visited by me > >> > >> her bed was empty - > >> she'd absconded > >> with her drip-feed bottle > >> > >> to judge some urgent > >> poetry competition > >> for the promising young. > >> > >> * > >> > >> Celebrating his eightieth > >> at a large gathering > >> he'd excused himself from, > >> > >> she hobbled forward > >> on her stick to the lectern, > >> praised him with force > >> > >> and large gestures - > >> strode back to her seat > >> without her stick. > >> > >> Now he's ninety, > >> I'm about to make my visit > >> of homage to his Elwood > >> > >> address, its Greek- > >> picture-haunted rooms, > >> I'll ask: Dimitris, > >> > >> are you still not only > >> writing your worlds > >> but touring Leros on your Vespa? > >> > >> > >> Max Richards, b.1937 > >> Doncaster Vic > >> > >> p.s. DT says he now has a four-stroke Vespa, easier for him. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Andrew > > http://hispirits.blogspot.com/ > > http://www.mullamullapress.com/QWERTY > > BLUE ROSE enovel avail. at Amazon, Smashwords and > > http://etextpress.com/books.htm > -- Andrew http://hispirits.blogspot.com/ http://www.mullamullapress.com/QWERTY BLUE ROSE enovel avail. at Amazon, Smashwords and http://etextpress.com/books.htm