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Sent: Fri, Jan 6, 2012 3:36 am
Subject: Re: Periglis


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On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 10:08 AM, Patrick McManus <
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> 'Rats Arse' what a wonderful title for a poetry book! is it copyright?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Poetryetc: poetry and poetics [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
> Behalf Of Lawrence Upton
> Sent: 06 January 2012 14:09
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Periglis
>
> local artists?
>
> like sand on the shore
>
> some of them are technically rather fine; and I used to go and visit one on
> another island in particular who had a sort of open house for a few hours a
> day when you could go and talk to him and he'd pretend to listen
>
> room full of reasonably priced tourist bait and one bin of what really
> interested him -- small details of rocks, odd shadows... photos and prints
> and paintings -- but they didnt sell much
>
> many technically proficient, but... Goes back to something Hockney said the
> other day,  which I have *some empathy with -- the need for tech ability
> and
> for that element he called _poetry_
>
> i expect he wouldnt tolerate what i would; i am quite interested in the
> products of incompetence; but he's on to something
>
> i used to say (without realising i *always said it) _what he/she does is
> really rather well done; I just don't know why anyone would want to do it_
>
> i stopped after someone said _i thought you'd say that; you always say
> that;
> I don't find it funny any more: why don't you just say you think it's well
> made rubbish_ & she was right, I suppose... now i just shove apples in my
> cheeks and grin like that guy in Catch 22
>
> *
>
> someone on the islands i regard as a friend was nonplussed by my snapshots
> book -- there's one about a diy weather vane and i emphasised that one to
> him because it's really there, on the periglis shore actually so you can
> see
> what i say i am describing - the poem's a straightforward thing about it
> and
> its shadows and its inversions (maybe _normal_ people don't read things
> backwards) -- seeing NES (Greek tourist slang for ersatz coffee) and SEN
> (as
> in blood). I was pleased with it in a downbeat sort of way, and the whole
> book was aimed at gig audiences who don't see themselves as followers of
> the
> avantgarde -- I used to get quite a few of those... but my friend, who is
> informed and intelligent, declared the book too intellectual for him
>
> it's depressing... my poem was about as intellectual as a rat's arse
>
> i have done the occasional peculiar postcard
>
> b-c me an address and I might send you one
>
> *
>
> micturating
>
> L
>
>
>
> On Fri, January 6, 2012 13:40, Patrick McManus wrote:
> > now, who shal i send THIS to? Those shals on the seashore??
> >
> >
> > How about a series of postcards with your paintings on one side and
> > porth  poems on the other-or half and half -very yummy for the tourist
> > trade (the upmarket bit!)- from local poet and artist etc don't bother
> > with those poetry antpamphlets scene no money there!L Upton Cheers
> > Patrick micturing wildly What about the Porth in the three
> > musketeers!!(this is one of my very rare lit refs!) Are there porths
> > in Portugal??
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Poetryetc: poetry and poetics [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> > On Behalf Of Lawrence Upton
> > Sent: 06 January 2012 12:39
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: Periglis
> >
> >
> > Hi Patrick
> >
> >
> >> L Powerful thanks seems deporthed??? I like the micture of massive
> >> and tiny Sometimes we get three porths now it has flown with the
> >> small thrush
> >>
> >>
> >
> > Once, I believe, I presented three porths, looking down the length of
> > a bar dividing perconger and the cove (which must once have been
> > called _porth_ before english prevailed. It was difficult to avoid and
> > I lapsed -- at your prompt I did take another route; for which I thank
> > you
> >
> > This, Perconger, is a very stony porth, swamped land, swamped over
> > recent  centuries -- that was undoubtedly in my mind, I refer to it in
> > another verse -- and the tide goes out quite far. The difference
> > between high and low is spectacular though you have to live there a
> > day or 2 to get it
> >
> > _micture_ is what you get at the outflow of a communal urinal, surely
> >
> >
> > i feel i have something right with your reference to _big and tiny_.
> > That is there, in what the poemeye is looking at. No alps etc, you
> > have to search for physical sublimes though the sea can be alarming if
> > you think on it. It's the smallness and lowness of it all out in all
> > that ocean, brevity of life among the aeons - the venerable bede
> > running in at one door and out the other before we've had a chance to
> > offer him a cup of tea [an allusion that will be quite silly if you
> > don't know the ref... sorry... bede, i think it was he, likened a
> > human life to a bird flying in and through and out of a room -- whoosh
> > -- done
> >
> > i felt that this morning when i got out of bed
> >
> > i'll shut up now
> >
> > now, who shal i send THIS to?
> >
> > L
> >
> >
> >
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Poetryetc: poetry and poetics [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> >> On Behalf Of Lawrence Upton
> >> Sent: 06 January 2012 12:11
> >> To: [log in to unmask]
> >> Subject: Periglis
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Low tide. The sea has finished with this lot:
> >> a stone gathering greater than the last judgment, every stone naked
> >> of earth covering, visible; ocean shallowed of all tide power.
> >>
> >> This can be ignored. It is not the end of anything, only the dead
> >> interval between quick and quicker events, big waves and plenty to
> >> take our minds off a while.
> >>
> >> Nevertheless, it's here in this morning.
> >> A herring gull gasps in lieu of a song and seems to shout "horror"
> >> over the fields.
> >>
> >> Meanwhile, on a bough, a small thrush composes, choosing from
> >> repertoires of known phrases, never quite repeating, not quite
> >> repeating
> >>
> >>
> >> [_Periglis_ from _Porth Eglos_ or _Landing Place at the Church_, -
> >> _Porth_ has been taken as a synonym for _cove_ ]
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----
> >> UNFRAMED GRAPHICS by Lawrence Upton
> >> 42 pages; A5 paperback; colour cover
> >> Writers Forum 978 1 84254 277 4
> >> wfuk.org.uk/blog ----
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > -----
> > UNFRAMED GRAPHICS by Lawrence Upton
> > 42 pages; A5 paperback; colour cover
> > Writers Forum 978 1 84254 277 4
> > wfuk.org.uk/blog ----
> >
> >
>
>
> -----
> UNFRAMED GRAPHICS by Lawrence Upton
> 42 pages; A5 paperback; colour cover
> Writers Forum 978 1 84254 277 4
> wfuk.org.uk/blog
> ----
>