What is the German word you are thinking of? I'm a reasonably competent speaker of German and can't think of anything which would fit the context. I. Von: Jeremy Harte <[log in to unmask]> An: [log in to unmask] Betreff: Re: [EPNL] nick & puck Datum: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 12:34:13 +0100 Dear Keith, Dear All, Compounds of pūca with stān are rare – perhaps unknown? They seem to have preferred pits, wells, dells, and corners from which they could jump out at people. And there are problems in deriving Nicheston from any sort of goblin name, since OE nicor was still something like nicre in 1200, if I remember my La3amon, and nick has the look of being a late loanword from German. There is a dialect word ‘nicko’ (or something like it) for woodpecker which I’ve seen cited for forms that otherwise looked like nicor. But hardly in 1200, and anyway ‘woodpecker stone’ doesn’t make much sense. Jeremy Harte From: The English Place-Name List [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Richard Coates Sent: 30 January 2012 11:03 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: nick & puck Puchesston is on the face of it odd if it’s a tūn name, since OE pūca is a weak masculine and shouldn’t form an –s genitive. Could the FN be for ‘goblin’s stone’ (pūcan stān)? Richard From: The English Place-Name List [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Keith Briggs Sent: 30 January 2012 10:22 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: [EPNL] nick & puck The two field-names Nicheston and Puchesston are recorded in Pickenham in Norfolk in 1200 [Dodwell:FFNf pp.107-108]. They seem to form a natural pair, and the second looks like a typical puck-name (cf. OED s.v. puck n.1), though I am not aware of any other -ton compound with this 'goblin' word. What is the element in the first? OED s.n. Nick n.2 has this as a name for the devil only from c.1695. (Smith (EPNE) has examples with nicor, but that word is unrelated.) Keith @book{Dodwell:FFNf, title= "{Feet of fines for the county of Norfolk for the tenth year of the reign of King Richard the First, 1198--1199 and for the first four years of the reign of King John, 1199--1202, now first printed from the original in the custody of the Master of the Rolls}", editor= "Barbara Dodwell", volume= "LXV (NS 27)", year= "1950", publisher="Pipe Roll Society", address= "London", keywords={primary_source}, } ******************************************************************** The information contained in this message is confidential and may be legally privileged. The message is intended solely for the addressee(s). If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, or reproduction is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by return e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. Visit the Epsom and Ewell Borough Council website at www.epsom-ewell.gov.uk ********************************************************************