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Dear Simon, Re: Penny, what is a 'false binary'? I trust that you are probably teasing me. However, in case you are not: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_numeral_system> Binary numeral system, a representation for numbers using only two digits (0 and 1) (wikipedia) Carl called for us not to get into the idea of : “independent trainer "good", supplier trainer "bad" sort of thread!” – I agree. A ‘false binary’ is my shorthand term for a very common political strategy aimed to obscure an issue by reducing it to a binary (a or b), which is a false presentation of it because it does not take into account c, d, e…n as well. Other false binaries that had arisen prior to my making the point include; · Skype/remote access (legitimate or not) · face to face (sinister/or not) Your initial point was specific and well-drawn, taking into account several elements, and is worth raising with SFE, who I am sure are capable a treating a question with the complexity it deserves. Kind regards, Penny From: Discussion list for disabled students and their support staff. [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Simon Jarvis Sent: 30 January 2012 10:43 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: IT training It listed, fairly extensively, the strategies that the training ought to cover, but not whether or not it would be delivered remotely or face-to-face. I think that's fair enough - most people reading the needs assessment reports would expect training to be delivered in the traditional sense, i.e. by a person who is there, in the room with you, rather than via an internet connection. Penny, what is a 'false binary'? Simon On 28/01/2012 22:12, Tim Franklin wrote: Simon Did the needs assessment include a quote specific including method of delivery and areas covered/not covered, or did it use basic costs from a basic list of a third party? Remote, on-line, Skype, e-learning, Web-based learning – whatever you call it – is a valid means by which students can access training. OU have been using video conferencing for years. If a company does not offer online alternatives, they are not able to supply and therefore cannot quote for it. However, if they are being quoted indirectly they have no chance to point that out. Companies could use the NNAC wiki - there’s room for transparencythere but still there is not standardisation in the way the prices are shown. Getting a direct quote asking for definite details works around situations where the company does not do online, there is geography limit, has a waiting list, only uses an It room of it’s own and does not do home tuition and so on. Tim Franklin -- Simon Jarvis Head of Disability & Dyslexia Service Queen Mary University of London Student and Campus Services Room FB 2.30, Francis Bancroft Mile End Road, London E1 4NS Tel: 020 7882 2765 Mobile: 07500 825 597 Fax: 020 7882 5223 www.dds.qmul.ac.uk