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Chris 
The instructions that I loosely mentioned would be to guide a depositor
to copy the files across without changing date created and other
underlying metadata, though I note from Dave Thompson's very
comprehensive response that this isn't necessary.

I am not sure that the format of the archives makes a huge difference,
as with paper material we would want to take the material that was
offered to us 
- there are a host of moral and ethical issues if we seek to recover
deleted files 
- there is also a (unacceptable) high risk that trust in the archives
will be lost 

In terms of censoring the content offered/transferred we know this
happens with paper material and I have no reason to expect it to stop
for born-digital archives. In some cases I would expect an archive to
return/destroy material that was accidentally transferred to the
archives but beyond the scope of the agreement - eg personal material
amongst organisational records etc etc


Dave 
Thanks for the pointer to the Peli cases hadn't heard of this before!

I accept what you say about CD but the idea stemmed from a possible
deposit of large media files amounting to some 700GB which is why I
started to think of hard drives for integrity and ease from the
depositors perspective rather than copying across to multiple CD/DVDs
etc

I do also support everything Dave mentioned about care and forensics -
we support this and have over the last year built-up two digital
forensic workstations for processing material

Best wishes
Simon


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Sent: 25 January 2012 10:48
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Subject: Re: Collecting born-digital archives

Wouldn't the answer be strongly affected by your aims? I remember Jeremy
Leighton John talking about their almost forensic setup, where there
were specific changes to avoid the copy process changing the original.
Are you interested in the content only as it exists on the surface, or
as interested in previously deleted versions, for instance? Is it likely
your candidates might feel tempted to censor the process, or change
things before starting it?

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On 25 Jan 2012, at 10:36, Simon P Wilson wrote:

> We are reviewing our approaches to the collection of born-digital
archives and wondered if anybody had successfully used external hard
drives (with instructions etc) to allow an individual to copy files
across without actually being present?
> -          In much the same way that a paper archive may be
transferred without a member of archives staff necessarily being present
>  
> Obviously there are some collections where you would want to be there
but as the university collections material from across the UK the
time/cost of a visit is hard to justify in all cases
> -          Or where a system/process has been set-up on a first visit
and pen/external drive used for subsequent accruals
> -          I appreciate we would still need to discuss possible
content / format issues etc etc
>  
> We are thinking of using a courier service to ship the drive to/from
the archives and to use drives that require a password to use
> -          For example the LaCie Rugged Mini 1TB drive or a encrypted
pen drive for smaller collections (eg upto 30GB)
>  
> Comments, thoughts and shared experiences etc are welcomed
>  
> best wishes
> Simon
>  
> Simon Wilson
> Senior Archivist
> Hull History Centre
> Worship Street
> Hull
> HU2 8BG
>  
> Tel: 01482 317506
> Web: http://www.hullhistorycentre.org.uk
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