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Incidentally the PDB validation server will spit out similar errors if you
have hydrogens on lysine side chains (also not a chiral center) should they
get swapped upon regularization during refinement. It makes the chemist in
me cringe a little bit.

Katherine

On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 8:30 AM, Robbie Joosten
<[log in to unmask]>wrote:

>  Hi Afshan,
>
> I assumed, because you mentioned only VAL and LEU, that you were refering
> to the CB (VAL) and CG (LEU) as problematic chiral centers. Paul is right
> that these atoms are not chiral in a chemical sense, but they are in a
> computational sense because every connected atom has a unique name. The PDB
> is pretty strict in this sense (as it should be), but they could/should
> call it a nomenclature error. They could also just swap the atom names like
> I described and solve the problem for you. Anyway, please give a bit more
> details about your problem.
>
> Computational chirality problem can be a serious problem for refinement:
> if the chirality is wrong due to swapped atom names, the chiral volume
> restraint will try to invert your chiral center. This can lead to malformed
> geometry, typically flattening of of the group. This means that a
> computational chirality problem can lead to a 'real' chirality problem. In
> Refmac, this will not happen for LEU or VAL, but it will happen for things
> like SO4, GOL, and a whole lot of other more interesting hetero compounds.
>
> @ Paul, I don't think it will be a CCP4 program that reported the problem.
> Does the 'fix nomenclature problems' option in Coot also do VAL and LEU?
>
> Cheers,
> Robbie
>
>  ------------------------------
> Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2012 10:44:58 +0000
> From: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] chirality problem
>
> To: [log in to unmask]
>
> Hi Afshan,
>
> This is not the solution if you are right about the problem being one of
> chirality (and it is if it is not and is merely an issue of nomenclature
> (as I suspect is the case)).  So the question is, if the problem is indeed
> one of nomenclature, what software (if any) described it as a chirality
> issue?  If it is one of ours we should fix that.
>
> Paul
>
>
> On 05/01/12 11:44, Robbie Joosten wrote:
>
> Hi Afshan,
>
> Just swap the (names of) the CD and CG atoms, no need for refinement. The
> CCP4 dictionary allows both chiralities for LEU and VAL, so Refmac won't
> detect the problem. The problem is still very real to many programs so it
> should be fixed.
>
> Cheers,
> Robbie Joosten
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2012 02:46:30 -0800
> From: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: [ccp4bb] chirality problem
> To: [log in to unmask]
>
>  Dear Users,
>
> I am facing difficulties to validate my structure according to PDB server.
> I have solved my structure and now want to submit in PDB but during
> validation process i have  some chirality problem specially   VAL and LEU
> amino acids there are total 18 amino acids which deviated from the
> chirality so how can i solve this problem.
>
> Any suggestion would be highly appreciated.
>
>
> Best Regards
>
> AFSHAN
>
>
>