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medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture Anne, I can't speak as a scholar but as a practicing Anglican of many years standing ... What sort of services are you talking about ? Sunday Worship ? Communion Services ? (For much of the 18th Century the principal service of a Sunday was Morning Prayer not a Communion Service - the latter might take place only three times a year at Christmas, Easter and Whitsun - the prescribed minimum.) The Occasional Services (Baptism, Marriage, Burial ) ? My understanding is that the 1662 Prayer Book was the norm from 1662 to 1928 - for the Established Church. ie the Church of England (IN ENGLAND) As concessions were granted over the years to dissident religious groups ( Dissenters, Quakers, [Jews] Roman Catholics &c) they would over time have been able to conduct their own services in their own way, but the "norm" was the BCP in the Parish Church - or the College Chapel. Initially the Methodists used the BCP because the Wesley brothers were both Anglican clergy. The supremacy of the BCP in the lives of those who were not members of the Established Church was eroded over time. There were different arrangements in Scotland and Ireland - and in Wales ? Until 1857 the Marriage Service in the BCP was the only legal form of marriage for everyone except Quakers and Jews who were granted permission to marry members of their own sect by their own rite. A mixed marriage would have to use the BCP. I think many Roman Catholics (and Dissenters ?) went through two marriage services: the legally binding one in a parish church using the BCP and a second rite in their own conventacle to satisfy their consciences. Until the Catholic Emancipation Act of 1832 (?) Catholics in London could only have a Nuptial Mass at the Chapel of one of the Embassies of a Catholic Country. BMC ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Willis" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 11:54 AM Subject: Re: [M-R] Book of Common Prayer / Parker Society > medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture > > Sorry to continue being somewhat off subject, but the website below has a > variety of BCP's. > > Very long shot but can anyone direct me to websites/books on church > services > between 1662 and around 1860. Was it all 1662 BCP? > > http://justus.anglican.org/resources/bcp/england.htm > > > Anne > > > > > > As Medieval Religion ended messily and indeterminately in England and > Wales (it ended remarkably peacefully, and overnight, in Scotland) > perhaps I could mention the Book of Common Prayer, as it is not > obviously not medieval? > > Hard on the heels of the 400th anniversary of the King James Bible comes > the 350th anniversary of the 1662 Prayer Book. To coincide with that has > been published Brian Cummings's edition "The Book of Common Prayer: The > Texts of 1549, 1559, and 1662" (OUP, 2011) ISBN 978-0199207176 > > Rowan Williams (bless him!) chose it as one of his "books of the year" > in the TLS acouple of weeks ago... The title is somewhat misleading, > however: it gives (uniquely, I think) a complete original-spelling > edition of the 1662 text, but the 1549 and 1559 texts are severely > truncated, and the 1552 text is not included. So you need to supplement > it with E.C.S. Gibson's 1910/1948 Everyman "The First and Second Prayer > Books of Edward VI", last re-issued by the Prayer Book Society in 1999, > which gives the full text of the 1549 edition and a shortened version of > that of 1552 (but which can be completed using the 1549 text), as well > as full texts of the 1550 and 1552 Ordinals (the Psalter is not, > however, included.) > > For 1559 text, I recommend John E. Booty's "The Book of Common Prayer, > 1559: The Elizabethan Prayer Book" (University of Virginia Press, 1976), > re-issued in 2005 with a pretty vacuous Foreword by Judith Maltby. That > is a modern spelling (and American spelling at that) edition, but rather > more seriously it omits the 1561 Calendar and the Ordinal - for these > Booty blithely directs us to W.K. Clay's "Liturgical Services: Liturgies > and Occasional Forms of Prayer Set Forth in the Reign of Queen > Elizabeth", published by the Parker Society in 1847! > > So I end up having to purchase volumes of the Parker Society (available > surprisingly cheaply) - and that was one rabbit hole I never imagined > disappearing down. > > Now I only need a 1539 Great Bible for the lessons for Mattins and > Evensong... > -- > John Briggs > > ********************************************************************** > To join the list, send the message: join medieval-religion YOUR NAME > to: [log in to unmask] > To send a message to the list, address it to: > [log in to unmask] > To leave the list, send the message: leave medieval-religion > to: [log in to unmask] > In order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: > [log in to unmask] > For further information, visit our web site: > http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/medieval-religion.html ********************************************************************** To join the list, send the message: join medieval-religion YOUR NAME to: [log in to unmask] To send a message to the list, address it to: [log in to unmask] To leave the list, send the message: leave medieval-religion to: [log in to unmask] In order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: [log in to unmask] For further information, visit our web site: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/medieval-religion.html