While the ICO uses Google Analytics I think it may be safe for the rest of us, somehow. Now, let me get mack to my boxed set of Yes Minister!
On 13 Dec 2011, at 16:41, Mike Ellis wrote:
> This just in from ICO...
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> http://bit.ly/uEdMGA
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> "we should try harder"
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> :-)
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> On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 3:21 PM, Thomas Goskar <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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>> As Mike mentioned, analysing log files wasn't exactly the most
>> friendly or accurate process, and I don't want those days ever again.
>> If we are to follow government example, rather than the letter of the
>> law, then I point you at lines 772-782 of the HTML source code for
>> http://www.number10.gov.uk/
>> I also note with interest that Google are advertising on London buses
>> and the Tube to explain what cookies are, which is a little odd if
>> their use is curtailed by a law which is shortly to be enforced.
>>
>> I do hope that this mess can be sorted out, but until No. 10's website
>> removes their Google Analytics tracking code, I'm keeping mine too.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Tom
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>> Web Manager
>> Wessex Archaeology
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>> On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 3:13 PM, Mike Ellis <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>> The enormous irony AFAIC is the enormous mismatch between the vast
>> quantity of TOTALLY personal information being thrown at Facebook with the
>> aggregate non-personal information currently being stored by tools like
>> Google Analytics…but annnyway...
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>>> Mike Ellis
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>>> We do nice web stuff: http://thirty8.co.uk (http://thirty8.co.uk/)
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>>> ** I've written a book: http://heritageweb.co.uk (
>> http://heritageweb.co.uk/) **
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>>>
>>> On Tuesday, 13 December 2011 at 15:08, Tony Crockford wrote:
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>>>> On Tue Dec 13 2011 14:46:59 Mike Ellis wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Nonetheless, I'd welcome some kind of unified response. Log files
>> nearly killed me once :-)
>>>>
>>>> I notice that the latest version of Firefox now has an option to "tell
>> websites I don't want to be tracked"
>>>>
>>>> I'm hoping that the law will ultimately accept the users browser
>> settings to indicate they accept, or do not accept *tracking cookies* which
>> is the point of the directive.
>>>>
>>>> The fact that they somehow managed to write guidelines to include *all*
>> cookies is all part of the problem with law.
>>>>
>>>> The current reaction is an indicator of all that's wrong with law
>> making. The law abiding are bending over backwards to try and comply with
>> something so fuzzy it's almost surreal, whereas those that the law was
>> designed to thwart are looking for ways to track users *without* cookies.
>>>>
>>>> E.g. We can't browse from the same IP address for long without leaving
>> fingerprints, and anyone that uses the same IP and the same browser on the
>> same operating system will be leaving muddy footprints all over the place.
>>>>
>>>> Pattern recognition on popular sites will allow targeted advertising
>> based on that footprint alone - no need for cookies, and the law is too
>> late.
>>>>
>>>> My view is that a statement about cookies in use is a good starting
>> point, having a pop up on every page to bar the user until they accept
>> cookies is a nightmare - and it needs to be every page if that's how we're
>> interpreting the law as nobody arrives on your home page and knocks
>> politely any more.
>>>>
>>>> Unworkable and pointless is my humble opinion of The revised Privacy
>> and Electronic Communications regulations, sadly I see the usual crop of
>> money making schemes appearing.
>>>>
>>>> Nice summary of the shambles here:
>>>>
>> http://www.guardian.co.uk/law/butterworth-and-bowcott-on-law/2011/may/27/cookie-law-shambles-web-browsers
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