I agree with Simon.
If it takes 27 pages to describe personal data, the useful discourse
available in 140 Chars is virtually nil.
Only use is as an alert
C
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[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Simon Howarth
Sent: 22 December 2011 20:37
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Subject: -----SPAM----- Re: [data-protection] Twitter and Tweeters
I will just add another angle to this. As someone in their 5th decade I
presume I am not the oldest here (nor the youngest). I am on Twitter and
joined specifically for DP/Privacy information. However, after two weeks of
living with it I switched it off.
I agree to some extent that it's like being in a busy café, and people drop
in and out of the conversation, but I would add that a significant amount of
that conversation is complete and utter drivel. The actual useful
information you get is not much, and everything that is spoken about of any
importance is generally pretty quickly available through more meaningful
channels in more than 140 characters.
One individual who tweets a lot just left me sitting there like a living
question mark - but I accept, it may be just me as forum posts they have
made indicate that they are in fact an intelligent human being!
It's also so full of people that want to be first to tweet or re-tweet, that
I began to see it as irrelevant. I have no doubt it's mainly me with the
issues. But frankly, it's pants.
AND I never got contacted by any of these nubile people mentioned! :(
Simon Howarth @SSHowarth - follow me on twitter, as I move seamlessly
through the ether....
MERRY XMAS TO ONE AND ALL
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Sent: 22 December 2011 13:59
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Subject: Re: [data-protection] Twitter and Tweeters
Yes, that is correct. I was trying to have the image of sitting in a large
cafetaria, like at school, where you sit with your mates or people of
interest. However, unlike this list, people can and do pop into the
conversation. :)
As this is a moderated list we are, thankfully, spared the twitterbots of
nubile young women (why is it always nubile young women?) selling viagra or
telling you that you have won a gift card?
For the most part you can follow whom you want and get a direct feed on
their topics and interest. However, unlike this list, your chances of
getting a response are much lower on twitter (in general).
However, both are excellent tools or personal learning networks, as someone
described them to me, so I do recommend that people leverage *both* lists as
95% of the tweeters are not on this list so you will have to follow them to
learn from them.
Best,
Lawrence
Lawrence W. Serewicz
Principal Information Management Officer
Assistant Chief Executive's Office
Room 140/4
Durham County Council
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From: Baines, Jonathan [[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 1:52 PM
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Subject: RE: [data-protection] Twitter and Tweeters
I would agree with all this Lawrence, but alter one sentence slightly:
"twitter is like a conversation in a very large and busy public cafeteria
*filled with people you have specifically chosen to listen to*..."
Jonathan Baines
Legal and Democratic Services
Buckinghamshire County Council
01296 383681
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[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Lawrence Serewicz
Sent: Thursday 22 December 2011 13:33
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Subject: Re: [data-protection] Twitter and Tweeters
Ibrahim,
Thanks for an excellent resource. I do recommend that if you are interested
in twitter that you check out these listings. They are a great resource.
My only caveat is this: Twitter is limited to 140 characters so you will not
find developed arguments or reasoned debate. For the most part you will
find links, references, and quick passing comments.
I do not tweet or blog about FOI/DPA topics in large part because of this
list. What is fascinating and helpful about this list is that people
develop ideas and when they do, you can see their logic and test your own
against it. I have been on this list for just over 5 years, and on similar
lists forthe past 17 years, and the opportunity to discuss and debate, as
well as read others debating and discussing, has been invaluable. The
knowledge and inisght of the participants and practitioners has been
excellent.
To put it into a metaphor, twitter is like a conversation in a very large
and busy public cafeteria where you may overhear a good conversation or you
may be heard. However, there is always a lot of noise in the background.
This list is a like a members only restaurant where people come for a
specific purpose. The food and conversation in both settings will be good
although the setting's difference will change the quality and consistency.
Enjoy the meal whereever you eat.
Best,
Lawrence
P.S. I'm on holiday so until the new year, adieu.
Lawrence W. Serewicz
Principal Information Management Officer Assistant Chief Executive's Office
Room 140/4 Durham County Council Durham
DH1 5UF
Tel 0191-372-8371
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[[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Ibrahim Hasan
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Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 10:03 AM
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Subject: [data-protection] Twitter and Tweeters
Colleagues may have found that from time to time the bulletin boards go a
bit quiet, despite the fact that there are many topical DP and FOI issues in
the media.
Often this is because the debate and discussion is taking place on Twitter.
I appreciate that this may not be everyones cup of tea but, if you are
interested, there are many information law commentators on Twitter that you
can follow.
A good stating point is the list produced by Judith Townend of 105 Legal and
Media Tweeters to follow:
http://inforrm.wordpress.com/2011/12/22/law-and-media-tweets-and-tweeters-up
dated-105-people-to-follow-judith-townend/
It so happens that we are at the top of the list - BUT ONLY because it is in
alphabetical order.
Other tweeters on the list and worth a follow (in alphabetical order of
course!) are @bainesy1969 @FoIManUK @FOIMonkey @tim2040.
Colleagues may have other suggestions.
Regards
Ibrahim Hasan
Solicitor and Director
Act Now Training Limited
For training without the strain of the train:
www.actnow.org.uk<http://www.actnow.org.uk>
Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/ActNowTraining
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